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#1 knoath

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 12:50 PM

I'm making Gum trees for my new track.
So I thought I'd share with you how I go about it.

I'm no scenery know all, let me start by saying that... this is just how I did some Gum trees in the past and I hope to achieve a better result this time.

Firstly, the materials I use.

I am using wire coat hangers as the main trunk this time as the last lot I made were a little top heavy.
The coat hanger wire should give plenty of strength this time round.
Also you'll see some wire. This is .9mm galvanised wire and 75m in length... $9 from Bunnings.
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I cut the wire into strips (about 200mm long) to make handling a little easier.
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Next, I begin winding 3-4 pieces of wire together... this will be a branch.
Simply wind the wire around the trunck and you can bend the branch whichever way you like. I leave the wire strands loose at the ends and bend them up. This gives the foliage something to attach to later on.
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Once you've made a few trees, you can cover the wire.
I have used Bob's Modelling Goo in the past but as it was unavailable this time around, I asked Ian what he knew... He told me that model railway guys use No More Gaps. You can get a few different colors now, I went for 'Coffee", but it may be too dark. The trees will be painted and highlighted anyway, so I'm not too worried... it was $5 for the tube.
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So I squeezed some into a cup and added enough water to make it easy to apply... not too runny as it will drip straight off the wire, but workable. Go for a thick mud consistency.
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All I had was a coffee stirrer (I did this at work on my lunch break) and wished I had taken an old paint brush with me to work!
A bit rough, but you get the idea.
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I've only done 6 trees, so there's a long way to go to get my projected total of around 60, but they should be pretty good by that time!!!
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 03:33 PM

Great for gun trees BUT I think I will stick with the Chinese ones to fill in most of the track, it just takes too long to do! I'm lazy!

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 04:18 PM

Knoath- you beaut!! lookin' good...can't wait for the next installment, I might get started this weekend, I've got some wire in the garage and her indoors may be noticing a few items of clothing lying around the house :P
keep up the good work! <_<

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:11 PM

Hey Phil... if you don't have the time or you're not after a specific tree... no dramas, go for the store boughts.
But I'm going for a theme here, which happens to be 70's Aussie race track... so I imagine (looking at most long standing Aussie race tracks) that gums are the way to go.
I have some time up my sleeve before things progress to the point of 'power on' with my track, so I'm having a go at as many trees as I can make for as little outlay as possible.

Huddo... I have quite a few wire coat hangers about the place as I always hang my clothes up neatly on the floor!
Give it a bash mate... it aint rocket surgery!
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:02 PM

Guys, if coat hanger wire is short in supply you can use multi stranded copper electrical cable and twist it up and can run a bit of solder on it as you go to keep strength in the trunk and cover it with the No More gaps. Gives you a bit neater branches to work with. Ian

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:14 PM

Thanks Ian!
Hmmm, copper 'eh?
Doing it tough these days mate? So that's who's been doing the new home sites and cemetaries over!!!!!

What's the color of a 2c coin?... copper, copper!!! :nice:
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:30 PM

Great stuff knoath

Keep this stuff coming mate as I've just distroyed a few coathangers. So I'm going to have to finish this project.

Im always after an excuse to go to bunnings

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:26 PM

Dick: I did make a few trees,took me about 1/2 hour each so when I can buy ones for 50 cents they are good value. BUT when you need gum trees it is a different thing. To buy gums they are very expensive!

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:35 PM

I see what you're saying about 50c trees Phil

he he he.... with the immense talent on our Cathode Ray Tubes these days, I've put some time to good use lately! .... I'm chasing the 'satisfaction of doing it myself' goal too.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:18 PM

Hi Dick,
just to let you know, I took a few photos at Bathurst. :o
Have a look at the tree at turn 13 (The Esses), how that tree grew, after the trim that tree had last year.

That was last year (2007).
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And this is how it looked this year (2008).
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Might be something you need to look at too, while you make your trees.

Have to pm you at one stage about the photos,
about 30 alone for Forest Elbow alone.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:56 PM

I know that tree... I have one planned for the track!!!

Thanks Christian!
Look forward to the PM!!!
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Posted 21 October 2008 - 05:06 PM

If you can track down lots of left over house wiring, using the earth wire and try hot glue for the coating. Builds up instantly and dries almost immediately.

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 05:40 PM

Thanks... I'll try that if I can find some.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:23 PM

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Had a go at that tree

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:54 PM

Nice kob Youngy!!!

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:45 AM

Not a bad effort at all Youngy.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:30 PM

thanks for the kind words its from studying your posts that i was able to even attempt to make a tree
i made 2 trees on friday night after reading knoaths instructions,then thought i would have a go at the bathurst tree
on saturday not a perfect job but for me i am stoked how well they turned out
thanks to everyone who shares there know how so us new to the hobby can have a go.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:52 PM

What did you use for your foliage?

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Also created after discovering Knoath's wire wound tree instructions. When searching for 'foliage' I discovered Noch Leaves and foliage. This is done with the leaves sprinkled over black polyfibre. The Noch Foliage is a sheet of the same leaf scatter on a polyfibre type background. The leaf scatter particularly is inexpensive, a little goes a long way, and the results are great.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

Embs i used some foliage fibre clusters dark green from hornby the other trees i made i used woodlands scenic light green foliage
which i think i like better.After looking at your tree i will add some grey to the trunk as well to lighten it a bit
thanks any advice is greatly appreciated
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:36 PM

Hi guys i am new to slot racing and i am in the process of converting my doulbe garage into a man cave and i have built a track based on a quarry theme and now i need to instal some street lighting so could someone please help me in a reasonable cheap way of doing this.

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