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[kalbfellp]

Can I have my tyres cleaned with WD40 before this round,that may remove some of the Ferrodore "sparkle"?

Phil

[rick1776]

Can you clean PVC tubing with WD40?? I thought it only clean rubber tyres??

hat coat Im outa here.

cheers
rick1776

[terry]

Sorry to be seen to be jumping on the train here,but could you clean the Marlboro Audis' tyres with WD40 before the start of round 2 please.

I need all the help I can get!

Don't want to give Phil any more of an advantage.

Terry

[smallnails]

Yeah My tyres are going to need a serious dunking in wd40 if they didnt get anything last round!

[MOPARDEVIL]

Geez phil, now you started it. Ill have a wd40 cleanige to please.

[espsix]

Manic, i think you'll have to put a list together of those who want WD-40 treatment, and those who don't (anyone with MJK's).
There were some cars that sounded like they needed a drop or two of oil aswell.

So far we have.

WD-40 treatment please!
Smallnails
Kelbfellp
terry
mopardevil


NO tyre treatment please!
espsix

Maybe this list needs to be printed out, and sent off with the cars to each round?

Edited by espsix, 02 April 2008 - 06:13 AM.

[Ontheflipside]

espsix, on Apr 2 2008, 07:11 AM, said:

Manic, i think you'll have to put a list together of those who want WD-40 treatment, and those who don't (anyone with MJK's).
There were some cars that sounded like they needed a drop or two of oil aswell.

So far we have.

WD-40 treatment please!
Smallnails
Kelbfellp
terry
mopardevil


NO tyre treatment please!
espsix

Maybe this list needs to be printed out, and sent off with the cars to each round?

Wild Turkey
Ontheflipside

[Davnic74]

WD-40 how doe's this help? i have seen it used once on a ferrodor track with MJK's and it made the car slide around more..

[espsix]

Davnic74, on Apr 2 2008, 07:57 AM, said:

WD-40 how doe's this help? i have seen it used once on a ferrodor track with MJK's and it made the car slide around more..

Dave WD-40 conditions up tyres such as NSR, plus all the "standard" (rubber based) tyres from Scaley, Fly, Ninco, etc.
But is no good for (Urethane based) tyres such as MJK's.
Most noticable on plastic tracks, instant grip, but has to be reapplied all the time.

[Davnic74]

espsix, on Apr 2 2008, 08:39 AM, said:

Davnic74, on Apr 2 2008, 07:57 AM, said:

WD-40 how doe's this help? i have seen it used once on a ferrodor track with MJK's and it made the car slide around more..

Dave WD-40 conditions up tyres such as NSR, plus all the "standard" (rubber based) tyres from Scaley, Fly, Ninco, etc.
But is no good for (Urethane based) tyres such as MJK's.
Most noticable on plastic tracks, instant grip, but has to be reapplied all the time.

Thank's Brett,
But that mean's it will dis-advantage the car's with MJK's such as your's because of residue left on the surface?

[Vinno]

Just as a note, Myself and Joe who have the Sydney rounds don't use any tyre conditioners. We clean with a damp cloth before a heat. This has always been the case on any proxy round in Sydney.

[espsix]

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Thank's Brett,
But that mean's it will dis-advantage the car's with MJK's such as your's because of residue left on the surface?

Your right, but what do you do?

Maybe, all the cars that don't want any WD-40 on their tyres should be run first up at each round, that way neither group of cars are dis-advantaged?

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Just as a note, Myself and Joe who have the Sydney rounds don't use any tyre conditioners. We clean with a damp cloth before a heat. This has always been the case on any proxy round in Sydney.

Tyres or Track?

Edited by espsix, 02 April 2008 - 08:50 AM.

[Davnic74]

My concern is what effect doe's WD-40 have on ferrodor surface's in the long run,how do you remove WD-40 from ferrodor?.
Seem's to be bit of a waste of time to get only 2 tenth's off 2-3 lap's and then the car maybe lose's more by race end
I noticed at the National's most were using shellite to clean tyre's maybe this is a better option! because after all you just want your tyre's cleaned right?

Edited by Davnic74, 02 April 2008 - 09:15 AM.

[oldslot]

I beieve that the rule should be established right now that no conditioners of any type are to be used. this has been the case in previous proxy's and should stand.
it will certainly cause problems as some track owners refuse to allow any artificial fluids to be used on thier tracks.apart from cleaning with water eg damp rag.

Edited by oldslot, 02 April 2008 - 10:03 AM.

[kalbfellp]

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this has been the case in previous proxy's

This has never been the case,the cleaning has been left to the track owners "house rules"

If this is to be a new regulation then all entrants should be allowed to change tyres with no penalty.
Shellite is an option but does tend to dry some tyres out. I also think it is no good on MLK's.
IMO this should be left to the track owners to decide.and do what their normal procedure is after all they know their tarck surface better than anyone.
If the guys with ferrodore do not want to clean the tyres then that is O/K, but the guys with other surfaces should be able to.

Phil

[espsix]

I think the biggest problem is, as Davnic74 pointed out (something i didn't even think of until he mentioned it), what will be a huge dis-advantage the guys running MJK's and Ortmans will have having to run on tracks that have WD-40 residue on it.
As i said before, if the use of tyre treatments is allowed, why not clean the track off, run the MJK/Ortman shod cars, then run the WD-40 bunch?

Which ever way it goes, no penalty should apply to tyre changes!

Edited by espsix, 02 April 2008 - 12:08 PM.

[espsix]

Davnic74, on Apr 2 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

My concern is what effect doe's WD-40 have on ferrodor surface's in the long run,how do you remove WD-40 from ferrodor?.
Seem's to be bit of a waste of time to get only 2 tenth's off 2-3 lap's and then the car maybe lose's more by race end
I noticed at the National's most were using shellite to clean tyre's maybe this is a better option! because after all you just want your tyre's cleaned right?

Dave, shelite would of been used to clean the "goo" off the tyres more than a treatment, and would only dry out most tyres we are using.

[hmcsat]

I guess Manic is the only one that can answer if he will allow WD40 used on his track. I am guessing he will not as the Carrera track can get a build up of WD on it and it is already slippery enough.
Having driven his track alot, I think we will have a totally different result to round one anyway. It will suit those cars that run well on a fast flowing track.

[BMR]

NO fliuds on my tryes thanks.

If I had known I could have been at a disadvantage because the track may be coated with a residue I would have selected a different tyre. (sponge with goo maybe)

Cleaning can be done with a bit of whatever fluid you like but use a rag to clean and wipe any dirt off the tyre. Don't just put it on the track and leave a slick trail behind . I can't remember anything before the start when all the posts were going up about the proxy that said any tyre and any traction fluids allowed ? Im for keeping the track totally clean .

Seems like the 2008 rules are being bent a lot . Motor swaps and tyre swaps after 75% of the cars were delivered on the due date. Extra fine tuning being done after the due date . And magnetic downforce from open can motors is still another issue that slipped by. It all seems a bit odd at times , whatever happens happens , its not cattle stations but it doesn.t look all cosher either.

[kalbfellp]

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Motor swaps and tyre swaps after 75% of the cars were delivered on the due date

Are the cars that were late going to get some sort of penalty?

Phil