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[sidecar steve]

Ok. Lets re-do this puppy shall we...

Edited by sidecar steve, 09 December 2007 - 11:19 AM.

[kalbfellp]

Steve: What are these : Sports GT Sedans 1972 to 1982?? Could you please define what they are?

Phil

[sidecar steve]

kalbfellp, on Nov 27 2007, 01:11 PM, said:

Steve: What are these : Sports GT Sedans 1972 to 1982?? Could you please define what they are?

Phil

Hi Phil,

Sports GT Sedans 72-82 were suggested in another thread in this post Sports GT

I would define that as a sub class of Sports Sedans limited to cars based on Grand Touring cars manufactured between 1972 and 1982. I'll do some more research on that as to specific cars but I'd thing Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, etc... Probably where the Lancia Deta/Celica/Capri Group 5 cars would be as well.

Edited by sidecar steve, 27 November 2007 - 01:01 PM.

[Antony]

Every time I try to vote on the poll I get an error message sayng that I have not selected a poll choice to vote against?. This is after I click on my choice and press vote. Am I doing something wrong and can anybody please shed any light on this?.

Thanks.

[sidecar steve]

Antony, on Nov 27 2007, 02:11 PM, said:

Every time I try to vote on the poll I get an error message sayng that I have not selected a poll choice to vote against?. This is after I click on my choice and press vote. Am I doing something wrong and can anybody please shed any light on this?.

Thanks.

Have you selected an option in every question? Even if you vote for LMP, you still need to indicate a response in both the Group C and Sedan sub polls.

[gazza]

If you choose Sports "Swedans" 65 - 90 ..... does that mean you have to race Volvo's?????

[kalbfellp]

Steve: I think the reference was for Sports GT cars 72-82 not sedans.

I have started a list of sedan cars ,not a reat choice of "Nice" handling cars. Plenty of other bodies available but they need a donor chassis.

Touring cars 1965 to 1990

Carrera
Ford Thunderbird '56
Pontiac GTO '66
Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda '70
Chevolet Camarr SS396 '66
Plymouh Roadrunner Superbird
Dodge Charger 500
Ford Mustang GT 350
Ford Torino Talladega '69

Fly
Audi quattro
BMW M3
Alfa GTV

Capri
Renault 5
Lancia 037
BMW 3.5 CL


GOM
Alfa Romeo Alfetta

Revell
Lotus Cortina
Mustang GT 350R

BMW 320i

SCX
Renault 5 Maxi
Ford Sierra
Ford Escort RS

Spirit
BMW 2002
Renault 5 Turbo
Peugeot 205

Team slot
Lancia Delta
Audi Quattro
Alfa Giulia GTAM

Scalex
Chevy Camaro
Ford Boss Mustang
Ford Gran Torino

MRRC
Celica

Please can any one come up with some other pre '90's RTR cars. There some other Scalex and Ninco but I tried to list what may still be available.

Phil

[sidecar steve]

gazza, on Nov 27 2007, 02:50 PM, said:

If you choose Sports "Swedans" 65 - 90 ..... does that mean you have to race Volvo's?????

Oi is you mocking my write impediment????

[MOPARDEVIL]

lol sports swedans.

[sidecar steve]

kalbfellp, on Nov 27 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

Steve: I think the reference was for Sports GT cars 72-82 not sedans.

Sorry Phil, I stand corrected...Was trying to post while the boss wasn't looking

The (by no means exhaustive and please feel free to add) list of Touring cars 1965 to 1990

Carrera
Pontiac GTO '66, Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda '70, Chevolet Camaro SS396 '66, Plymouth Roadrunner, Plymouth Superbird, Dodge Charger 500, Dodge Charger Daytona , Ford Mustang GT 350, Ford Torino Talladega '69

Fly
Audi quattro, BMW M3, Alfa GTV, Capri (not racing version), Renault 5, Lancia 037, BMW 3.5 CL


GOM
Alfa Romeo Alfetta

Revell
Lotus Cortina, Mustang GT 350R, BMW 320i, VW Beetle

SCX
Renault 5 Maxi, Ford Sierra, Ford Escort RS, Lancia Delta, Renault Alpine A110

Spirit
BMW 2002, Renault 5 Turbo, Peugeot 205

Team slot
Lancia Delta, Audi Quattro, Alfa Giulia (GTA and GTAM), VW Beetle, Fiat 131, Ford Capri

Scalex
Chevy Camaro, Ford Boss Mustang, Ford Gran Torino, Ford Escort Mk 1, 67 Mini Cooper,

MRRC
Celica

Pinkkar
VW Beetle

Edited by sidecar steve, 27 November 2007 - 06:43 PM.

[sidecar steve]

As far as resin bodies go, RMS has a pretty sweet range of shells and I've just noticed that Ocar do a very cool 1976 XJS Jag....

Here is a quick list of the available bodies I found
Ocar Bodies
Ford Capri
Karman Ghia
Escort Mk1
Datsun 240Z
Ford Anglia
Jaguar XJR
Aston Martin

World Classic Bodies
Ford Escort Mk2
Ford Cortina Mk2

TopSlot Bodies
Ford Mustang GT350R

A2M Bodies
Ford Anglia
Datsun 280ZX
Fiat 131 Arbath
Mini Cooper

TMC Bodies
Hillman Imp (at 50UK quid each!!!!)
Ford Anglia

Team Slot Bodies
Vw Beetle
Sierra Cosworth
Ford Capri
Fiat 131

RMS Bodies
Pontiac Firebird (1968 and 1970), Ventura
Chev Camaro (1968 and 1970), Chevelle, Impala
AMC Javelin
Dodge Challenger T/A
Plymouth Barracuda (1968 and 1970 AAR), Fury
Ford Mustang 1966, Maverick, Galaxie,
Oldsmobile Omega

Edited by sidecar steve, 27 November 2007 - 06:53 PM.

[Eno the Wonderdog]

I voted for sports sedans.. I wanna see Vinno's monster edmonson(?) Alfa run.

[Antony]

.[/quote]

Have you selected an option in every question? Even if you vote for LMP, you still need to indicate a response in both the Group C and Sedan sub polls.
[/quote]

Aha, the old answer every part of the poll trick.

Thanks Steve.

[Vinno]

Eno the Wonderdog, on Nov 27 2007, 06:19 PM, said:

I voted for sports sedans.. I wanna see Vinno's monster edmonson(?) Alfa run.

Mate, I am the only one to race that car. Too much effort to build it for it to get trashed as I am unsure it would last. Proxy races can be hard on cars. Also, it will come back from Tassie covered in mould release or something like that. Sorry Phil next time I do something different I will send it down to you before I finish it.

[smallnails]

So why aren't we allowed to enter a fly capri racing version???

its a plastic body rtr sedan isn't it??

[kalbfellp]

While we now have a great list of RTR cars and resin bodies,there is very little choice of decent cars to run.
Many are front engined,and many others just have crap chassis's. Even allowing motor pods there will be only a very small number of decent cars.

IMO I think the Fly racing should be allowed along with some of the later years cars such as the Scalex jag.

I like the idea of the Sports sedans but I don't think many have really thought about what cars fit the RULES before voting.

Phil

[hmcsat]

You have hit the nail on the head Phil. IMO all we have managed to do is come up with a list of the worst performing cars available on the market today.

Perhaps the class could be extended, something like 1965 - 2000. The extra 10 years will make all difference to having a great field for the 2008 proxy.

[sidecar steve]

We have been talking through potential classes for quite a while and it just seemed to be a good idea to get some consensus around a class. I for one would like to use the Christmas break to get a start on my DUPR 2008 car.

Taking your points, my thoughts on Fly Racing Capri's being eligible was based on the premise that the last DUPR decided to ban Slot.it 312 Ferarris because of the advantage they would have over other cars in the field and the feeling we would end up with a grid full of Slot.it 312s. I think the same goes for the Fly Racing Capri.

If people want to race the Scalex Jag, they could cast a vote for Modern Sedans. Making execptions for one car leads down the path of making more and likely end up with the same cars that were run in DUPR 2006.

Extending the date range to 2000 for sedans may be the best compromise. If we do that how about we just call it Sports sedans pre 2000?

Another possible consideration is to tweak the rules to improve the chassis available by allowing eligible bodies to be fitted to any RTR chassis (excluding plafit, hrs, etc...).

I'm not going to tinker with the poll, 'cause this is Mk2 already. Can I suggest we just let this poll run its course then appoint a group to fine tune the regs so we can have some fun with this?

[Antony]

Athough I would like to enter whatever class is finally chosen I must admit went the LMP option because there are plenty of cars available in the LMP class from different manufacturers and all the ones that I have tried so far, mainly Scalex and SCX, are good runners, their low cog and wide track being a good base from which to start. There would also be no issue with Slot it in this class.

I seriously doubt I will get a sedan to run well with my limited skills, none of the models I own in this class are great on track, they are fun to drive but very challenging. However if it's to be sedans then I will have a go at a Sedan but I like the idea of extending the years to let in some better handling cars for the less skilled car builders like me.

[hmcsat]

Good idea Steve. I would really like to use Christmas to get started on the build and if we can get to a decision before to long many entrants may be able to get Santa to supply the right car...........if they don't have one that fits the class.

The extention of the class to include 65 - 2000 sedans as you say may be the best compromise to make a competitive and enjoyable proxy for both the old hats and the new guys giving it a bash for the first time.

BTW, I am happy to host one of the QLD rounds and am happy to volunteer Manic to do the same.

Cheers
'Chris