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[BMR]

Are we racing at Honvo ? What cars ? I tried to contact James today via phone ...no answer . If anyone (SCSC) finds out can you post it so we can check our cars over before Monday 29th

[hoffy]

Dave said he was going to try & find out.

It looks like I wont be getting my track down by then, so I can do a standin race if we get no answer from James & if people would like

Ashley

Edited by hoffy, 25 October 2007 - 08:57 AM.

[3ofus]

hi guys sorry its late notice we are racing at hovno (James's track)
we will be playing with nascars & the gp2 sports cars round 4
usual story track opens at 7 racing at 8 c u there

[lenny broke]

3ofus, on Oct 26 2007, 08:02 PM, said:

hi guys sorry its late notice we are racing at hovno (James's track)
we will be playing with nascars & the gp2 sports cars round 4
usual story track opens at 7 racing at 8 c u there

NASCARS are going to be interesting there aren't they! especailly on that last corner.

[Imkouwl]

Not 4 me I cant make it tonight

[3ofus]

hi guys another monday night another race meeting
here are some pics and the all important results

[BMR]

Move over Lightning McQueen , Daves on the job , Damn fast post of the results.

[lenny broke]

HI Guys
Progressive points scores are now posted over here
prog points after rnd 4

Young Blake is doing rather well isn't he?
Kane, it's time to nobble the lad me thinks

[BMR]

lenny broke, on Oct 30 2007, 08:00 AM, said:

HI Guys
Progressive points scores are now posted over here
prog points after rnd 4

Young Blake is doing rather well isn't he?
Kane, it's time to nobble the lad me thinks

I would like to nobble Chris for taking me out three times when Im lapping him as well , what say we take points away for unsportsman like driving ? Bring back group A and group B drivers keep the crashers in together so the real drivers can have a proper clean race. If it was a real championship race and not a practise run I would be really @*#@ed off at being knocked out of the slot by a driver that is being lapped for the third time whereas here and now Im only mildly @$#&ed off !!

[lenny broke]

BMR, on Oct 30 2007, 07:57 AM, said:

I would like to nobble Chris for taking me out three times when Im lapping him as well , what say we take points away for unsportsman like driving ? Bring back group A and group B drivers keep the crashers in together so the real drivers can have a proper clean race. If it was a real championship race and not a practise run I would be really @*#@ed off at being knocked out of the slot by a driver that is being lapped for the third time whereas here and now Im only mildly @$#&ed off !!

Hey Steve.
I think your being a bit harsh on Chris there mate.
Keep in mind he is fairly new to our racing and I don't think he has been to Hovno before either. It's not the most open of tracks is it? He would have been busy enough trying to run his own race to notice you charging up behind him.
I don't believe that the nerfs were intentional at all and seeing where he got you on a couple of times it's not the easiest part of the track to be side by side. I certainly wouldn't try to overtake on the outside there if I could help it.
I thought your race seeding depended on where you finished the previous round. whoever loaded the names into the computer may not have done this on this occasion. It's not Chris's fault where he was seeded.

Try to remember when you were a "crasher" and not a " real driver" eh !

As for applying penalties, that's another rule to enforce isn't it and we gotta keep it simple huh???

lets keep this in perspective......... old boys wth toy cars and some young ones too!!!!

any way on to the Big valley next round

Alan

Edited by lenny broke, 31 October 2007 - 10:05 AM.

[rick1776]

I remember Dave taking me out 3 times at Kym and Jordans one night. I didnt take it personally. Stepping on Daves car was an accident I tell ya

cheers
rick1776

[BMR]

lenny broke, on Oct 30 2007, 11:34 AM, said:

BMR, on Oct 30 2007, 07:57 AM, said:

I would like to nobble Chris for taking me out three times when Im lapping him as well , what say we take points away for unsportsman like driving ? Bring back group A and group B drivers keep the crashers in together so the real drivers can have a proper clean race. If it was a real championship race and not a practise run I would be really @*#@ed off at being knocked out of the slot by a driver that is being lapped for the third time whereas here and now Im only mildly @$#&ed off !!

Hey Steve.
I think your being a bit harsh on Chris there mate.
Keep in mind he is fairly new to our racing and I don't think he has been to Hovno before either. It's not the most open of tracks is it? He would have been busy enough trying to run his own race to notice you charging up behind him.
I don't believe that the nerfs were intentional at all and seeing where he got you on a couple of times it's not the easiest part of the track to be side by side. I certainly wouldn't try to overtake on the outside there if I could help it.
I thought your race seeding depended on where you finished the previous round. whoever loaded the names into the computer may not have done this on this occasion. It's not Chris's fault where he was seeded.

Try to remember when you were a "crasher" and not a " real driver" eh !

As for applying penalties, that's another rule to enforce isn't it and we gotta keep it simple huh???

lets keep this in perspective......... old boys wth toy cars and some young ones too!!!!

any way on to the Big valley next week

Alan

I had a phone call today from Chris , he said he was egged on to knock me off - intentional nerfing ? YES !
My point was that if this was the real championship I would be most $%#@ed off .

Seeding racers into groups that suit each other is a better way to go - I have always had this opinion. I can show you a box of broken cars that are the result of (new to the club drivers) that accidentially forgot to slow down for the corner and used my car as a braking marker.

By the way I was actually never a crasher ...not into other cars anyway ! I always gave way to other faster drivers and even other slower drivers if they were obviously going to get by me , this habit is learned very early in 1/24th scale clubs because you actually have to spend a lot of time building a car or buying an old 1960's car so you don't want to crash them , or be the one to blame for breaking someone elses $250.00 toy.

In 1/32 racing the toys are cheap and easy to get so if I was to T bone your car off the track onto the floor it wouldn't really bother you HUH ?

[rick1776]

I think a code of conduct should also be included into the Club rules. If and when they get posted!!! And that this should be given to new and old members alike. Rather than rely on whispers and so and so said..

I still dont even know what Gt-2 category is? Im reluctant to modify any of my cars until the rules are laid out. Im sure Id have to retro fix some of them to make them more stock but I dont know what the rules are.

cheers
rick1776

[BMR]

rick1776, on Oct 30 2007, 01:52 PM, said:

I think a code of conduct should also be included into the Club rules. If and when they get posted!!! And that this should be given to new and old members alike. Rather than rely on whispers and so and so said..

I still dont even know what Gt-2 category is? Im reluctant to modify any of my cars until the rules are laid out. Im sure Id have to retro fix some of them to make them more stock but I dont know what the rules are.

cheers
rick1776

Stock motors up to 20,000 RPM , if you have a lucky motor that goes a little beyond 20000 then thats ok but if its obviously a screaming wonder that has been put in to replace the standard motor then it will be delegated to GT1 class , incidentially GT1 is for Slot it cars , NSR moslers and alike that perform RPM wise much better than the standard NC5 Ninco - Scalextric 18500 - SCX R42 type sports cars / GT2 cars. GT2 is also at this stage a mix of Lemans cars - JGTC cars -and more modern European sports cars.

PS race conduct : I know I can get a bit grumpy and snarl at people about there tactics on the track - sorry thats me . But pull the thorn out of this old bears foot and I'll give ya the shirt off my back as well

Edited by BMR, 30 October 2007 - 02:02 PM.

[lenny broke]

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In 1/32 racing the toys are cheap and easy to get so if I was to T bone your car off the track onto the floor it wouldn't really bother you HUH ?

But you wouldn't do that, would you, Steve.

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By the way I was actually never a crasher ...not into other cars anyway !

Crasher is your wording steve not mine I assume you refer to some one not that experienced. I think the term is somewhat derogatory.

I was cleaned up couple of times last night too. Also at your place last time when the guy (a crasher???) was on the other side of the track and took me out from three lanes away .
Cost me a lap annd a good position as I had to marshal mine and his cars as there was no marshal there. Didn't need to have a shot at him on a public forum though, just asked that we have a marshal at that point in the future. I was pissed that no one was there but I got over it

I've always taken the attitude that it's up to me to get past. if he gives me a tap he gets one back next time to remind him.
I come from different school of thought perhaps. commercial track racing is a bit more aggressive.

I'm quite happy to let someone past if they are going quicker than me, occasionally you are going to get the odd accidental nerf and if I do I always apologise to the the victim. I think also that it's up to the overtaker to pick their moment to get by safely I was always taught goin' around the outside ain't necessarily your best option Think of it as a courtesy from the other driver not an absolute right. If I know the guy may be a problem I give it a bit more caution

Having said all that if what you say is true and he deliberately took you out he deserves a swift kick up the arse. A bit sad to here that

Any how like I said toy cars mate

Cheer up you old bugger

Alan

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PS race conduct : I know I can get a bit grumpy and snarl at people about there tactics on the track - sorry thats me . But pull the thorn out of this old bears foot and I'll give ya the shirt off my back as well

yeah we know that

Edited by lenny broke, 30 October 2007 - 06:45 PM.

[Imkouwl]

Rick

I know why the rules have not been set because there seems to be a problem in specifying motor RPM, no one wants to make a decision because further investigations are still taking place. I suggested posting the rules with this one thing left out, that was a week ago. my thoughts are to set it at maximum 21000 this is 17% over the STD. SO heres the big question do 80% of the club upgrade there motors to be competive with the other 20% who got a freak motor. or go the other way and make the 20% buy new motors with a more STD RPM.

Now Ive opened the can of worms Thats usually Hoffys Job


BTW this is an independent test result

Scalextric standard “black stripe”, Sport (FC-130) 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 20,577-22,300 RPM/12v

I would like to test everyones car just to see were the mean RPM would be, but this requires a club effort Im not sure we are capable of

[3ofus]

so Im going to get points taken away from me if i try and keep up with the "fast guys" I'm only trying to be sporting and play as hard as I can and if I just happen to knock someone off then I may as well go & play in my sons sandpit!!!
and as for the "rick incident " Im sure it was more than 3 times well the cars recovered but i diddnt loose any points !!!
a little quote comes to mind ..... " THATS WIZARD'S CHESS "
whats next loose points for slow or bad Marshalling ????? !!!!!

Edited by 3ofus, 30 October 2007 - 06:57 PM.

[rick1776]

Dave,

I didnt mind. But it was in the warm up lap Dave

Shouldnt be that hard to do a survey of all the cars. Jordan has a opto RPM thingy and I have one off E-bay now. Just measure the RPM while your not racing on the night and keep a record. Just need to make sure its always at 12V. Measure 30-50 cars and record the min, max, readings and set a limit accordingly. If we set it at say 22K then this would probably be OK for 95% of the cars. A guess on my part. Cross fingers I should be able to make next Monday night. Id even be happy to not race and measure cars on the night. Get it all tabulated and printed off.

cheers
rick1776

[Imkouwl]

Club members still need to know what ratio there gears are and believe it or not they dont all know. I can usually tell if a car is stock but sometimes if the pinion has been changed its a little difficult. So for the rules to be finalized a club effort may be required.

Note to Hoffy some of this conversation may need to go into the other post?

[BMR]

Imkouwl, on Oct 31 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

Club members still need to know what ratio there gears are and believe it or not they dont all know. I can usually tell if a car is stock but sometimes if the pinion has been changed its a little difficult. So for the rules to be finalized a club effort may be required.

Note to Hoffy some of this conversation may need to go into the other post?

Yes we all need to let Imkouwl what gears we're running so the motor RPM tester can crunch numbers to see if your motor is revving more than the car class allows

You have tested some of my cars already Imkouwl and logged them into your computer but just to save some time " all my cars have two gears "