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[knoath]

Has anyone had any dramas with the spur gear slipping on the axle?
I noticed this the other night and was quite surprised by it as the rest of the car is great!

If you read this Rick, where do I get another spur gear?

Cheers,
Dick

[SlotsNZ]

knoath, on Sep 1 2010, 12:54 PM, said:

Has anyone had any dramas with the spur gear slipping on the axle?
I noticed this the other night and was quite surprised by it as the rest of the car is great!

If you read this Rick, where do I get another spur gear?

Cheers,
Dick

Don't think they supply spare parts, why not just slip off the wheel, and throw a Slot.it 19mm? I think 19mm at it.....

[Rob]

Dick,
Ive experienced the same thing with my mustang too.

[rick1776]

G'day Dick,

I dont think Pioneer have many spares as yet. Just some motors and magnets. Yes I had one slip on me as well. If youre doing club comp Id replace the items.

If youre racing with mags Id keep the same gear ratio. 12T pinion and 36T spur. If racing non-mag on wood Id go 13T pinion and 36T spur or 12T and 34T spur. The 18K motor is a genuine 18K unlike the 18K Scaly motor which is closer to 22K. The Pioneer motor has more torque though so the lower ratio is fine. Both options give nearly the same ratio. I use a 7.5mm NSR anglewinder gear with a 19mm slotit spur. Perfect mesh. DO NOT use slotit 6.5mm pinion!!

Carefully remove the plastic rim on the spur side. If you want to use Al rims MJK make a NASCAR 10mm wide rim that will fit under the guards and I also use MJK tyres. Thats up to you though. Paul Gage also makes good tyres. If you want to stick with the original plastic rims which run pretty true drill a 1mm pilot hole in the center of the rim hub. You wont even notice the holes there. It allows for the air to escape when gluing the rim onto the axle. Grind a 45 degree bevel on the end of the axle. About a 1mm flat spot. I use gel superglue as it gives you about 3 seconds of play time before it sets. Place a bead of glue around the end of the axle and push rim on quickly. Hey presto. Either you have a mess or it worked out perfect.

While youve got the axle out make sure the bearings are not too tight. The axle should be able to drop through under gravity when you turn the chassis on its side. If it doesnt you need to hone the bearings using a 3/32 drill bit, BY HAND!!, until the axle drops through freely.

The cars on wood are competitive with T/A cars made by scaly. I was 0.1s off the pace recently with some of the faster cars in the club and Ive found some extra pace since then with some mods, so its a good alternative to Scaly cars if you want something a little different to the 69 Camaro (no uses the Ford Mustang Fastback do they?).

[Ember]

Yes. Same slipping spur here. The replacement axle, not the original. Actually it's spur and pinion both. But nothing a daub of superglue won't take care of.

I've actually spoken to Jules about this, not as a complaint, merely a case of confirming something another individual experienced on SFI. It's a touch and go type of issue. They're using a daub of glue during assembly (it's either that or everyone's favourite knurling) and its a fine line between not enough and too much.

Embs

[Ember]

Oh, and spare axles/wheels are available currently for the Bullitt. Not sure about the others. And changeout 21k motors.

[MOPARDEVIL]

Knoath

I may be wrong but I seem to recall Jules offering to replace the rear axle if you are having problems with the gear slipping. Just Pm or email him about it. Hope that helps

I was driving mine the other day when a buddy came around & the whole backend kept getting tight, like locked up. I havent looked over it yet. Maybe its the slipping thing but it was more like nothing at all would rotate freely. Ill be looking at it later

[munter]

My Pioneer is still in its box....maybe slippage is something to enjoy in the future.

Edited by munter, 01 September 2010 - 03:38 PM.

[knoath]

Thanks for the replies everyone.
I won't bother PMing Jules as I intend to replace the plastic gears with NSR and Slot.It (now... thanks Rick)
I'm not after a replacement set, that wasn't the nature of the thread, moreso to ask if I had a one off or if it was common.
Seems it's more common.
Rick, my cars run magless on wood (except a certain Porsche... Ballarat 'in' joke) so the set up techniques are pretty much the same across most of my cars.
I will get some gears soon and go over the 'Stang.
No hurry yet as I've been repairing a couple of cars for this week's round...

Thanks for the advice.

Dick

[charlesx]

Not sure what the law says in Aussy but in NZ slippage would be covered by Consumer Guarantee Act. If Jules has offered to replace however that is fine. Appears he should be looking at fixing problem as it is getting rather common. For example change gear to grub screw version.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[Pioneer]

The slipping spur gear has been a curse on some of the earlier production models. The size of the centre hole in the spur gear was adjusted for all post May '10 production and I have seen no reports of slipping gears on any of the latest models. We have fixed it Chas, but it has not really become evident yet as folks are still buying some older stock, in particular early examples of the Blue Notchback and the Black/Gold Fastback cars.

Gluing is, of course, an option but Mopardevil is correct: a replacement will be sent for any part that is not up to standard. A PM to me will get that arranged.

I hope to be the bearer of some good news about an eagerly waited black car quite soon!

Cheers,

Jules

[charlesx]

Great to hear Jules. Pity some other manufacturers are not so receptive to calls for improvement. I am sure every potential purchaser will be glad to hear what you say. Keep up the good work.

Your cars are on the shelves in NZ now so hopefully they are all the improved ones.

Love the look of the cars but still to see one in the flesh. Would be interested to hear if any difference has been found in performance between fastback and notchback styles.

Finally what progress is being made on the provision of spares.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[Pioneer]

Chas, you are correct. There are now 2 dealers in NZ. Hoyles in Waitakere City and Slot Race Shop in Napier.

I have not found a measurable difference in performance between the FB and NB styles. There should not be; the chassis are the same. If there is an apparent difference one to another that would be just down to magnet strength and motor power - anything up to 5%, + or -.

Most spares are available ex UK. They have not filtered out to worldwide dealers yet (over 100 of them now). Effectively you can buy any part from a chassis screw through to a complete body top with glass and interior - everything is available but just not advertised right now.

I hope you manage to try one of the models out very soon.

Jules

[charlesx]

Hi Jules.

Have seen 2 recent new listings via internet in NZ (one via Trademe plus the Slotraceshop) but previously Iron Horse Hobbies in Chch at least had some. May have sourced from another retailer. Saw them down there in May 2010 when on holiday.

Thought perhaps there might have been a weight difference that could affect performance. First thing I would do would be to take magnet out. Think I saw one in some Aussy results recently too and it did pretty good.

Have not seen parts advertised to date but will look harder now I know. Thanks for the info'. Sure it will be of interest to current and prospective owners.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[knoath]

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a replacement will be sent for any part that is not up to standard. A PM to me will get that arranged.

I hope to be the bearer of some good news about an eagerly waited black car quite soon!

Well, that ought to do it then.
An eagerly awaited black car as a replacement for a slipping spur?
I knew you were good Jules, but you've just outdone yourself!
PM for postal address!!!!!

[Ember]

knoath, on Sep 2 2010, 09:49 PM, said:

An eagerly awaited black car as a replacement for a slipping spur?
I knew you were good Jules, but you've just outdone yourself!
PM for postal address!!!!!

Hmmm.... Reckon the driver's door just fell off my Bullitt. In fact, I'm quite sure the whole rear of the car was loose. And its got some rust developing. And Steve's head just fell into his lap.

[rick1776]

Ive heard that you have that effect on men Embs.

Hat coat Im outa here.

[Ember]

It's not me. It must be my cooking.

[slotmadmac]

Thanks for the heads up Guys.

I had a gear slippage issue so took your advice and PM'ed Jules - who answered my query within 5 mins.
Replacement parts are on the way.

Absolutely wonderful service to match these excellent new cars. I am definitely a Pioneer fan.

Mac

[Johnsxr8]

Yeah my blue car slipped, but upon setting up my red one last nite i noticed there was no knurling of the back axle at all and the spur and two wheels spin on the axle of my red one, does anyone else have this problem?