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#1 slotmadmac

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:37 PM

Hey Guys

I love this Fly model for it's looks and handling. I have a set of four stock ones that I plan to use for a club event soon - but just brought another to set up as an out and out racer.

Slot It orange endbells really suit my track. Is there a direct drop in replacement for the long can Fly racing motor that performs similar to an orange endbell and brakes well, or should I just adapt the chassis so an orange end-bell fits in there?

Any other set up tips? I plan to run a full Slot It rear end and UltraGrips.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:49 PM

There were a number of guys running them at SlotShop, with the Avant Slot Orange motors.

It is a damn nice motor and from what I have seen, seemed to suit the car extremely well.

In fact was always thinking of getting one of them, to do just the Same !!

Definitely Worth considering :bday:

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 08:59 PM

Id look at the NSR Kings, good range of RPM available and good torque numbers as well. I swapped on einto my avant LMP and was very pleased with the results.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 01:35 AM

I have an NSR King 21.5 in a Supra, nice motor, good brakes. I have decided that if a motor can go slow it is better when it goes fast. Might sound dumb but my single favorite motor is a Fly racing FK-130. Will creep around that one can almost see the motor turns but goes like hell. Likewise the NSR will creep. Some of my motors need a lot of trigger to get them in motion which turns into less controllability. I only do laps and beer!

Edited by FLY in the wall, 07 August 2010 - 01:36 AM.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:27 AM

The easiest way to put an S-can into those, is to use the Ninco NC-1 motor adaptor - and some hot glue or similar to make sure the thing stays put in crashes, and doesn't move under load.

They can still be bought at the regular "pusher" in NZ.

But I think that chassis can handle more than an orange bell, maybe consider a yellow or red, and gear it down a little if needed, to give more brakes.

OR, you could use a Slot.it Boxer, which is what I have in my "Banzai" car, while my lower powered one has an NC-6 in it.
That is still a fair upgrade from the FLY motor which is barely NC-5 in power.

There's also the NC10 and NC12 from Ninco which are closerthe Slot.kit boxer in power.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:49 AM

Thanks Guys - forgot about the Slot It boxers. Duh! Are these a straight drop in?

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:15 AM

View Postslotmadmac, on Aug 7 2010, 07:49 AM, said:

Thanks Guys - forgot about the Slot It boxers. Duh! Are these a straight drop in?

Mac

Yep

I'll bring my two to Mike's on Wednesday, so you can have a decko. I plan to run the Banzai one in '65 to 80 sports anyway.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 01:39 PM

mmmmm maybe I'll run mine too.
That way I can avoid a head on clash with Mikes Alfa which is looking sweet.(too sweet)

I've still got the basic "cooking" motor in mine but you know me,there are some other tweaks that have been done.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:17 PM

As usual I got impatient and hit the parts bin... Threw on Slot It wheels all round (used big rears); zero grips on the front and glued and trued some nice fat Ultra Grips on the back. Slot It axles / crown gear and put a Slot It pinion on a long can Spirit motor from a BMW 635 chassis I munted. Not sure what the motor rating is - but it feels like 22-23k. Anyway, it was all I had that would drop in. I left the body loose.

First test run was quite fast - 7.6 on my gloss wood track (which is comparable with a well set up, stock Slot It Group C). The car had good straight line speed but was very taily in the corners. This wasn't a surprise as I have always found Fly Racing Capris to be very tail happy.

So I tried a number of weight combos.... The best result was putting a little weight just behind the guide and on either side of the motor. Time dropped to 7.45 with this set up - but the tail happy characteristic stayed.

As I said before, I love how models sit on the track and would love to have one set up extra sweet.

So... has anyone cracked the set up so the tail action reduces?
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

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a BMW 635 chassis I munted.
love that !
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 06:47 AM

View Postslotmadmac, on Aug 7 2010, 04:17 PM, said:

..... from a BMW 635 chassis I munted.

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Just so long as it was only the 1:32nd 635 you munted not the one parked beside the pool......... :)

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 07:47 AM

At least the one parked by the pool went well when i first brought it... unlike that 1:32 dog of a Spirit 635
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 03:17 PM

View Postmunter, on Aug 7 2010, 10:39 AM, said:

That way I can avoid a head on clash with Mikes Alfa ......

Just curious. Alfa what?
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

One class we race is 65-80 sports .....the slotit alfa romeo qualifies as does the fly capri racing.
Kind of a mismatch but .......
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 04:46 PM

Bring that car round to me too Mac. A simple missconception in Slot racing is more power, I need more power. A more stable less RPM car will smoke a high rever anytime UNLESS there is a 30ft straight somewhere { which there isn't in HB } .If the Alfa/ Capri is a mismatch then why not one night run 65-80 Saloon and another time Sports.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:04 PM

Cheers Mike. Another kind offer.

I agree re: too much power... I took off the NSR UltraGrips and put on some Slot It silis this arvo. It's flying now and much more stable in the corners.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:37 PM

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 06:20 PM

Nanu Nanu . . . . . ooops, wrong alien

But the banzai smoked the other . . er 3? Alfas.....

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:38 AM

View PostSlotsNZ, on Aug 12 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

Nanu Nanu . . . . . ooops, wrong alien

But the banzai smoked the other . . er 3? Alfas.....


But the skyblue capri smoked the other two capri cars...banzai and the other bluey........and with the standard motor!!! and with a low gear ratio !!!
However my car would get smoked and eaten on a bigger track like Mac's.

regards, oh sorry.............Nanu nanu........................munter to Orsen, come in Orsen ?
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:16 PM

Definitely enjoyed the impromptu Capri race on Wednesday. Wouldn't mind seeing a single make series make its way into club night from time to time.





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