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 Seems New Ssd 6 Car Pb Has Landed In The States

eagleby flyer
post Aug 7 2010, 10:33 AM
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It does seem to fix that problem of digital or analogue. I've built a new 2 lane track just for this PB so I can now do scenery as well as race 4 cars with my kids. I don't understand why there is no hype from scalextric about this, it's supposed to be their 'flagship product' they been developing for years and then when it's released ......... nothing. huh.gif
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post Aug 8 2010, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (eagleby flyer @ Aug 7 2010, 08:33 AM) *
It does seem to fix that problem of digital or analogue. I've built a new 2 lane track just for this PB so I can now do scenery as well as race 4 cars with my kids. I don't understand why there is no hype from scalextric about this, it's supposed to be their 'flagship product' they been developing for years and then when it's released ......... nothing. huh.gif


Thats because its not really released yet, only the Yanks have them. (as of yesterday when I last checked). Once the Poms, Kiwis, and Aussies get on board you will see more advertising I'm sure. But you'll have to remember that Scalextric have had a number of false starts with these things so I'm not supprised that there is still a lot of hesitation surrounding the product. Particularly with the suppliers and retailers.

The only reason I felt confident to buy this thing untried is that I know the PB Pro guys had a hand in developing this unit (or at least the direction it took). I trust their efforts far more than I do Scaley's efforts. Which is sad but true. I wonder if Scaley realise the damage they have done to their own brand by releasing an inferior product in the first instance, then taking so gawdam long to fix it. This product better be reliable, and usable straight out of the box, or I won't be a happy camper.

If all this functionality comes off Scaly can thank the PB pro team for saving their credibility IMO.




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post Aug 8 2010, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (eagleby flyer @ Aug 7 2010, 12:33 PM) *
... I don't understand why there is no hype from scalextric about this, it's supposed to be their 'flagship product' they been developing for years and then when it's released ......... nothing. huh.gif

Well, if you know that Christmas is coming up, and that following a recession descretionary spending has declined (and as a consequence, the earnings of Scaley) then wouldn't prudent business process be to save marketting to be in the big buying season?

Equally, if this is aimed at the 'Expert Slotters' then why not use the free publicity generated through all the forums to start the movement of your product? Gee if I was the business, then yes, I'd do that... (premature starts not withstanding.)

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post Aug 10 2010, 10:54 PM
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I don't think the "British reserve" would let them hype it up, imagine the press response - Hornby release critical new powerbase (2 years behind schedule).... Too many opportunities to end up with egg on face.


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post Aug 13 2010, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (RikoRocket @ Aug 10 2010, 08:54 PM) *
I don't think the "British reserve" would let them hype it up, imagine the press response - Hornby release critical new powerbase (2 years behind schedule).... Too many opportunities to end up with egg on face.


Well boys at this point I couldn't give two hoots who advertises it or not. My Advanced 6 Car power base has arrived. 6 days from the US to my doorstep in Perth. How cool is that. Especially considering the distributers haven't got the foggiest Idea about this thing. HOw does Scaly even survive as a business? anywho

The Toyworld in Fremantle has been great, they ordered me a transformer. (and valiantly tried to get a power base) but alas..... the WWW was far quicker in end. Now lets hope this thing doesn't fry on its first outing. Because the WWW so good with warranty returns!


Won't be using it until tomorrow night, but I'll give you guys the good oil once I do. I've got a grainy picture to post up, but "insert special item" doesn't seem to think pictures are special. And I refused to create some account with a third party just to post a crappy picture. So words is all your getting boys! My apologies.

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post Aug 13 2010, 06:50 AM
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Still waiting for mine from US, 10 days now - hopefully it will arrive today....
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post Aug 17 2010, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (miveson @ Aug 13 2010, 04:50 AM) *
Still waiting for mine from US, 10 days now - hopefully it will arrive today....



Well mine took six days door to door. Got to be happy with that.

As for first impressions of the PB itself. (from an admitted slot-car novice). Well after about three sessions of using it, I'm comfortable enough to use some of the key features without too many dramas. I must say it's far harder to get a grip of the menu system than I thought it would be.

Programing Pace cars took a few goes to get right. I had to leave it and come back to it because it was getting on my goat at one stage. The instruction booklet could be longer in my opinion. It's a bit flimsy in its explanations and assumes a bit of prior knowledge.

For example; I must have pressed the left and right arrows simultaneously a dozen times before i realised i was doing it wrong. If Both arrows are side by side in the book it just means you can press either one, and not both at once, as I thought. (although thats not always true either, when you reset the default settings it requires the pressing of buttons simultaneously).

I'm guessing someone versed with the old 6 car PB or PB pro, would take to it like a duck to water, but for newbys like me it was down-right painful.

I did learn something whilst playing around with the pace cars. Program them into separate I.D's or when your racing them they will beat you every time. Two cars using one Id will clock up the laps pretty damm fast.

Another thing I learnt was that at certain times (not in every mode) you can use the enter button to grid the cars up prior to a race. So to race all your pace cars, fist assign ID's to each one. let them do some warm ups then hit the enter button to set grid. All the power is stopped, you can pick up all the pace cars and set them up. Grid your own car. then press the start button. The count down will commence and off you go.

I'm running my F1 cars as pace cars and an Australian standard V8 super-car as my own car and racing them. The F1's only need about 15% power to go around my track and be challenging to pass. Beats doing timed laps by yourself thats for sure. I set both cars to random lane changes and off I go. This function alone makes the PB worth it for me.

I think its the first time I've really got the digital system working enough to impress me.


P.S. One button car programming!! To do this (In certain modes) you must press and hold down the ENTER button on the PB until the little LED on the dash goes green. Then you put your car on the track and press the BRAKE on your controller. Or in some other modes, you can enter the menu by pressing the appropriate PROGRAMING ARROW buttons a few times to bring up the right menu. Then you press the BRAKE button or hit the excelerator to make the car go. This is all good, except for one little detail..... It takes more than one button to do ONE BUTTON PROGRAMMING! rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 17 2010, 01:26 AM
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Well to ID 6 cars would only take 7 button presses, one average that is closer to one than to two... But I agree that it is a little bit cheeky to call it one button cool.gif

Mark, did the cable get there yet?

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post Aug 17 2010, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (RikoRocket @ Aug 16 2010, 11:26 PM) *
Well to ID 6 cars would only take 7 button presses, one average that is closer to one than to two... But I agree that it is a little bit cheeky to call it one button cool.gif


Ah you've got me! That would mean 7 button programming for every six cars programmed, so just divide that number by 6 (1.1666666) round that down and Wu-La. One button programming per car! It's all making sense now. :-P

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post Aug 17 2010, 03:33 AM
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It used to be 7 buttons for each car ID! Vast improvement.


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post Aug 17 2010, 05:44 AM
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My production version arrived today courtesy of Aussieslotters chauffeur wink.gif



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post Aug 17 2010, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE (RikoRocket @ Aug 17 2010, 01:26 AM) *
Mark, did the cable get there yet?


Colin,

Cable arrived on Friday thanks very much - just have to wait for the new release of SSDC to give it a whirl.

Unit arrived yesterday and I'm in the midst of writing up a review - can't say any more than that for now smile.gif

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post Aug 17 2010, 04:52 PM
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I think we can safely say SSD is the best system currently on the market out of the big 4. Congrats to guys from Slotforum (you know who you are) who helped on the project.


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post Aug 17 2010, 11:16 PM
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Can't comment on the other systems, other than a few brief goes at a Carrera system, all I know is the SSD gear. The four car PB and now the advanced 6 car PB. But from what I've read and had first hand experience of the substantial improvement over the four car PB the new advanced 6 car PB. Id have to agree with you there.

The new six car PB has resored my faith in Scaly. I was pretty disenfranchised by the whole game there for a while. Now this thing has sparked a bit of life into it for me.

Down the track I would like to see switchable brake lights and head lights on SSD, sector timing, and variations on the lane changers though. IE bi-directional CLC and XLC. Plus a decent pit/fueling system. But I'll take what they've dished up because its pretty good stuff.

Can anyone say power!
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post Aug 18 2010, 03:42 AM
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Switchable lights, sector timing, bi-directional not possible with SSD because of the architecture. A decent fuel system is however.


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post Aug 19 2010, 09:37 PM
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I finished the review and posted it here: (no point putting same review on multiple sites - and most of you frequent multiples) smile.gif

C7042 Scalextric Digital Powerbase

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post Aug 20 2010, 12:34 AM
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ohmy.gif .................Simply fantastic review Miveson.

Not sure what your day job is, but I wouldn't be a bit suprised if your asked to do future reviews by any of the manufactors on their latest offerings.

Well Im sold, guess Im going digi after all.

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post Aug 20 2010, 08:20 AM
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Cleveland,

THanks very much - my day job is futures and options - far less exciting that writing reviews. smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2010, 10:31 PM
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Yes very good write up, but be warned.

If you do go down the digital path, forever it will control your destiny!!!

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post Aug 21 2010, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (ozquad44 @ Aug 17 2010, 02:16 PM) *
Down the track I would like to see switchable brake lights and head lights on SSD, sector timing, and variations on the lane changers though. IE bi-directional CLC and XLC. Plus a decent pit/fueling system.


Switchable lights is not possible as the comms protocol doesn't support it, brake lights are supported but you have to buy the early saloon chips with the BK pad on and then wire according to RichG's guide. Sector timing we did on Slot-GP software before, it might come to SSDC in the future. Aussieslotter has already done all the bidirectional stuff. I make Pit-Pro systems that work with the new powerbase and SSDC V5, and of course with the old PB6 and PClapcounter as well as SSDC.

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