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#1 oswald900

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:32 PM

Im thinking of putting a Scalextric motor into my SCX NASCAR COT just wondering if anyone has does this ?

Im am thinking if i use a standard Scalextric motor i will need spacers but was wondering if i use a Scalextric F1 or Bike motor as they are longer then i wont need spacers?
Do you need the conversion kit to fit any different motor into SCX cars ?

Does anyone know or have any tips on this

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 12:55 AM

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Im thinking of putting a Scalextric motor into my SCX NASCAR COT

Why? SCX offer some higher performance motors, OR the SCX motor can easily be tuned to perform better.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:51 AM

hey pal , just seen these rx-4h , scx motors , maybe a way to go and no spacers etc etc

oh by the way thanx for the drill the other day car is flying

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 09:19 AM

View Postkalbfellp, on Jun 12 2010, 01:55 AM, said:

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Im thinking of putting a Scalextric motor into my SCX NASCAR COT

Why? SCX offer some higher performance motors, OR the SCX motor can easily be tuned to perform better.

Ive never been a fan of SCX Motors

How can you tune a SCX motor to perform better other than running it in ?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 09:22 AM

View Posttoast, on Jun 12 2010, 09:51 AM, said:

hey pal , just seen these rx-4h , scx motors , maybe a way to go and no spacers etc etc

oh by the way thanx for the drill the other day car is flying

cheers

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 11:33 AM

na thats ok when ya ready i am goood now at lapping traffic

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 01:38 PM

There are ways to improve scx motors Rick at south city is a bit of a whizz with them but to tell you the truth i just run in a 42b if thats what you have and put on a 10 tooth pinion and find the performance the same or better than a scaley motor anyway. The 42 motor is a bit slow but the 42b 42c pro turbo etc all go up in performance. Ian at our club fitted a scaley motor to an scx car and it was pretty easy just using a "liquid" mount.( a liberal dose of hot glue or epoxy)
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 01:57 PM

View Postfirst corner crash, on Jun 12 2010, 02:38 PM, said:

There are ways to improve scx motors Rick at south city is a bit of a whizz with them but to tell you the truth i just run in a 42b if thats what you have and put on a 10 tooth pinion and find the performance the same or better than a scaley motor anyway. The 42 motor is a bit slow but the 42b 42c pro turbo etc all go up in performance. Ian at our club fitted a scaley motor to an scx car and it was pretty easy just using a "liquid" mount.( a liberal dose of hot glue or epoxy)

Do you know what Scaley Motor it was eg F1 or not a Long Can motor ?

Guess he used the Slot It adaptor ?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:00 PM

Just checked the car and its got the RX42 motor in it GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:23 PM

I hate to mention these words but Slot.it has a plastic widget adapter for FC motors in SCX. The other problem will be can drive for SCX vs endbell drive for Scaley.
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#11 oswald900

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:25 PM

Thats why im thinking about a Mabuchi in it but ill see how i can get the car going first

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:12 AM

I did measure the motors and I think Scaley is OK for length but it is end bell drive so you have to do some mods as SCX is can drive. Typhoon would work but it does not resemble scaley so depends on regs if you race. If you don't race then....

The problem everyone has is finding an equivalent to scaley. If you don't race then slot.it green would be close?
Another idea would be FF shaft should be OK but performance would be better. Have a good look at new SCX offerings there is probably something there.

Want to go really quick on a budget? Little Ripper but you'll need a big track.

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Edited by FLY in the wall, 15 June 2010 - 02:12 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 09:28 AM

View Postoswald900, on Jun 12 2010, 06:30 PM, said:

Just checked the car and its got the RX42 motor in it GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
A lot of cars were released with the 42 motor and it is good for small tracks but its a bit too slow for open wood tracks. We race 42b cars against scaley cars in lots of classes and there is little difference in performance with the black stripe motor once you put a ten tooth pinion on the 42b. The slim can scaley motors are another thing altogether they are way more powerful then either of the other two but a little more "peaky" to. I personally don't like them and think its a hard choice for clubs to allow them or not in classes whic allow the other 2 motors as they have a clear power advantage over the other types. As an aside Ian just liquid mounted a black stripe into his scx car and it worked very well. His car came with a 42 and he had black stripe lying around.

Edited by first corner crash, 15 June 2010 - 09:30 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 12:49 PM

If you are just after outright speed get a RX-4H motor, 25,000 rpm, they fly and no messing about with spacers and glueing.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:26 AM

SCX RX Vintage (open frame, single magnet) tested 19,509 RPM/12v
SCX RX-4 16,400 RPM/12v; tested 13,367 RPM/12v
SCX RX-41 16,400 RPM/12v; tested 14,378 RPM/12v
SCX F1 16,400 RPM/12v; tested 13,500-15,390 RPM/12v, tested 77 gcm/12v, 2.8W/12v
SCX RX-42 16,400 RPM/12v; tested 14,971-15,400 RPM/12v
SCX RX6B (was RX6) 18,000 RPM/12v
SCX RX-81B 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 17,184 RPM/12v
SCX RX-42B 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 17,927-18,900 RPM/12v tested 130 gcm/12v, tested 5.8W/12v
SCX RX-41B 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 18,256 RPM/12v
SCX Pro Turbo 18,000 RPM/12v; tested 20,100 RPM/12v
SCX Pro Turbo Plus 19,000 RPM/12v; tested 20,340 RPM/12v
SCX RX-62C 19,000 RPM/12v; tested 18,540-20,622 RPM/12v
SCX RX-91; tested 20,533 RPM/12v
SCX Pro Speed Double Rally 19,100 RPM/12v 135 gcm/12v, 6.4W/12v
SCX Pro Speed 19,600 RPM/12v; tested 18,800-20,717 RPM/12v 140 gcm/12v; tested 123 gcm/12v, tested 6.4W/12v
SCX Pro RX-4H 25,000 RPM/12v; tested 27,282 RPM/12v
SCX RX-42E Club Porsche tested 20,750 RPM/12v. Same armature as Pro Speed.
SCX Compact 1/43 (FF-030) 22,000 RPM/12v 33 gcm/12v, 1.8W/12v

RX-4H runs at 27000 RPM so why would you want to put in a Scalex motor?

SCX build quality is very poor with 1 in 20 motors being much quicker than the specs above indicate. Fastest motor I have is a Turbo armature in a RX-42 can. It revs much harder than a Turbo Plus and the torque is so great it spins the wheels as soon as it accelerates. Easily as fast as an orange endbell Slot.it. The only reason I swapped arms is because in the turbo can it ran as slow as a RX-42 so I did some experimenting.

An easy way to get a quick SCX motor is to fit a Parma deathstar 16D armiture. They go straight in and run really hard with lots of power. Or you could fit a Group 20 arm and really have fun. Won't be drivable through corners but down the straight nothing will touch it.

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Edited by Sports Racer, 26 June 2010 - 01:42 AM.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 03:19 PM

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 11:26 PM

"If you are just after outright speed get a RX-4H motor, 25,000 rpm, they fly and no messing about with spacers and glueing."

I put one in my Red Bull Aston Martin certainly is a lot quicker - feels more like the Pro Porsche (same motor) but doesn't have very good brakes

any suggestions for how to improve the braking?

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:55 AM

Lower gearing will improve brakes but compromise top speed....best to adjust a crown wheel by a tooth or two but if you are using standard SCX rear axle;rims/crown then go for one tooth down on the pinion.
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