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[MOPARDEVIL]

In anticipation to Phils soon to be realeased 1965 Plymouth Barracuda resin bodies here are a few liverys from back in the day. This will give you guys a bit of an idea of how they raced back then.











And here is Richard Pettys drag car that he raced briefly. There is quite a story behind this car & how it came to be but Ill leave it for a rainy day.





I have loads more photos on my computer of these cars. But if anyone wants anymore I can post or email more over. These are just to give you an idea. I guess if anyone is interested in getting some of these bodies let Phil know.

Thanks
Greg

Edited by MOPARDEVIL, 15 October 2009 - 01:29 PM.

[MOPARDEVIL]

I almost forgot the money shot. Here is the first body out of the mould. Phil posted this in another thread of the forum so I copied it from there. Im sure Phil can fill in any details about these bodies. Hope this is ok I copied these over Phil.

Edited by MOPARDEVIL, 15 October 2009 - 01:35 PM.

[manitouguy]

Nice stuff Greg - i think all the photos except for the last ones, of Petty's drag car, are of the '66 Cuda (Strombecker did the '66)
The drag car is a '65 like the repop body

i will scan some more in tonight and post a link

looking forward to seeing what you do with the shells!!

cheers, Ron

[SlotsNZ]

I must say, the family resemblence between these puppies and a certain ozzie car we knew as the AP4 valiant in NZ, indicate common father-hood.

How much difference was there?

[MOPARDEVIL]

SlotsNZ, on Oct 15 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

I must say, the family resemblence between these puppies and a certain ozzie car we knew as the AP4 valiant in NZ, indicate common father-hood.

How much difference was there?

I think maybe you mean AP5/AP6. Theres no AP4 that I know of. The only similarities they have is the front guards & bonnet. Some shared the same motor as well - slant 6. Otherwise they are different. The biggest difference is the Plymouth Barracudas were 2 door. Unfortuneately all the Oz/NZ AP's were all 4 door.

[kalbfellp]

Many years ago a Cuda was written off down here BUT they managed to rebuild it using an AP5 for front. Matbe I should look at converting the Cuda to a 4 door Taxi!!!

[Stubbo]

Phil,

What about an R or S series Valiant in 1/32? Any possibilty?

[SlotsNZ]

MOPARDEVIL, on Oct 15 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

SlotsNZ, on Oct 15 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

I must say, the family resemblence between these puppies and a certain ozzie car we knew as the AP4 valiant in NZ, indicate common father-hood.

How much difference was there?

I think maybe you mean AP5/AP6. Theres no AP4 that I know of. The only similarities they have is the front guards & bonnet. Some shared the same motor as well - slant 6. Otherwise they are different. The biggest difference is the Plymouth Barracudas were 2 door. Unfortuneately all the Oz/NZ AP's were all 4 door.

Nope, I definitely meant an AP4, - that's what they were called here -
I came very close to buying a blueprinted 2 door fastback when I was about 19.... hummed, haaaed, vascillated for about 3 days, then it disappeared off the lot.

That said, I may be remembering wrong, because this is the 4 door version
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-247135078.htm

so I guess that front is more like some years of the AP5

[MOPARDEVIL]

Hey Mark,

This is very interesting. This is the order of Chrysler Valiants here in Australia.

R series Valiant-


S series Valiant - (Very similar to R series but notice the boot lid & tail lights are different)


AP5 Valiant - (New body design)


AP6 Valiant - (Notice new grill same body)


VE Valiant - (New body design & Wheels mag car of the year)


VF Valiant - (New body Design)
4 Door


2 Door (Same body design as dodge dart but smaller motors & different grill)


VG Valiant - (Same body design, New grill design, Now square headlights)
4Door


2door (Same body design as dodge dart)



VH Valiant
4 door (new body design)


2door



Ill stop there but it goes into all the Chargers & some other larger body cars. They are all the Australian Chryslers up tp 1972 anyway. The first 2 door coupe that was released was the VF Valiant 1969. No other cars before were available as 2 door in Australia. That link you posted Mark is an S series & only available as 4 door. You could get 2 door version in the US. Maybe NZ got American Chryslers, im interested?

[kalbfellp]

Stubbo: I have seen a kit OR resin of an R series some where,but they are hard to find.

[MOPARDEVIL]

Stubbo, on Oct 15 2009, 04:19 PM, said:

Phil,

What about an R or S series Valiant in 1/32? Any possibilty?

Theres this one. Not very good though
ebay

[kalbfellp]

Yuck!

[imugford]

MJK are/have done a S in 1/32, the VC is more like 65 barracuda, but you can see where the ap6 and vc got there shapes from

[MOPARDEVIL]

imugford, on Oct 16 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

MJK are/have done a S in 1/32, the VC is more like 65 barracuda, but you can see where the ap6 and vc got there shapes from

Oh really, I didnt know mjk did a s series. Im going to have to email them for some pics. Do they look any good? So where have you been hiding Mug, I thought you must have gotten lost in that VC of yours?

Greg

[imugford]

MOPARDEVIL, on Oct 16 2009, 04:44 PM, said:

imugford, on Oct 16 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

MJK are/have done a S in 1/32, the VC is more like 65 barracuda, but you can see where the ap6 and vc got there shapes from

Oh really, I didnt know mjk did a s series. Im going to have to email them for some pics. Do they look any good? So where have you been hiding Mug, I thought you must have gotten lost in that VC of yours?

Greg

its been a while since i've been out slotting... i havn't seen a finished product. but the VC is coming along, all the body work is done. the back painting behind the front guards is done and guards are back on. so i just have to wait a week or so for a good weather day and the paint with be on!!

Ian

[rick1776]

Why do I keep getting visions of the movie Wog Boy??

Gino....Sweeeeet mate

[Stubbo]

MOPARDEVIL, on Oct 16 2009, 04:44 PM, said:

imugford, on Oct 16 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

MJK are/have done a S in 1/32, the VC is more like 65 barracuda, but you can see where the ap6 and vc got there shapes from

Oh really, I didnt know mjk did a s series. Im going to have to email them for some pics. Do they look any good? So where have you been hiding Mug, I thought you must have gotten lost in that VC of yours?

Greg

I had a look at their site but couldn't see anything. If you get any info please pass it on.

[MOPARDEVIL]

Alan,

Ill shoot Neil an email now. Problem is last time I enquired about there EH body is they sell them as a complete kit only with all mjk running. You cant buy body separate. Ill confirm though. EH price was $100-$110 I think, great running gear though

Do you have a soft spot for s series?

Greg

Edited by MOPARDEVIL, 16 October 2009 - 05:48 PM.

[Stubbo]

MOPARDEVIL, on Oct 16 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

Alan,

Ill shoot Neil an email now. Problem is last time I enquired about there EH body is they sell them as a complete kit only with all mjk running. You cant buy body separate. Ill confirm though. EH price was $100-$110 I think, great running gear though

Do you have a soft spot for s series?

Greg

A small soft spot.

[BMR]

MJK valiant S series is a goer but not in full production just yet Mopardevil . Should be along soon after Xmas I reckon .
MJK also have a early Jaguar 1964ish ? 4 door and a few other aussie classics. I have seen both the Val and Jag bodies and they look sweet .
Yes the Val and Jaguar are only available as a full running MJK kits but thats how it is , Can't blame them for that , its business , development costs money and there is the tax man to pay .
MJK are selling a product as a complete running item , and its a good product as far as the way they go on the track . The kits may not be for everybody as the kits need to be assembled by their new owners , bit of a novelty in todays world of mass production where people only buy it , bash it , throw it away and buy another one . Probably a bit hard for the younger slot car group to start with but anyone over 11 - 12 years of age should be able to build one easily
The kits may seem dear at a glance but I doubt many local cottage industries could ever hope to compete against the overseas high production companies like Scaley , Ninco etc - and so far we ain't seen many Aussie cars from the O/S manufacturers bar the V8 supercars with no interior , or other more common bodies like the Cortinas that can be cloned into an Aussie race car via decals.
The new Scaley Torana with see through glass and an interior is at least is giving us some hope for some decent Aussie cars in the future. In the meantime the only way to get early Aussie cars onto our tracks is to buy them from people that make them at home eg MJK or Phil K etc .
The metal chassis under the skinny EH and FJ bodies go quite well so they should run the same under the Val and Jaguar bodies I would expect - they won't beat a wide bodied slot it or Ninco Ferrari sports car but no old 1:1 holden could beat a Ferrari in the real world either so you could say the performance is true to scale as well , these kit cars are great raced against each other in a format of all cars / entrants running the same equipment under the body - they make for a good "club car" format . The chassis are strong enough to take all the abuse thats often handed out to club cars and you will never break the chassis where the flag drops in like a plastic chassis so they are great for the kids . I have played around with an EH that had a 22000 plafit pointer put into it. It was much quicker but being such a skinny car they are harder to drive with the extra power . The cars I have driven with the mabuchi motors (Ausrace motor) were plenty of fun and equal or better than the Aussie V8's from Scalextric in stock form . Both can be improved with some finer tuning . At least the MJK kit has a a decent interior and driver plus a decent flag , drill blank axles , alloy wheels , good tyres and true fit rear axle bushes out of the box.
I have been racing the EH and FJ cars on the MJK tracks for the best part of 2009 and can honestly say they are a tuff little unit that handle all the usual bumps and biffs plus more than a few hard slams and still keep on going . Im not sure what type of plastic MJK use to make the bodies but its as tuff as the old tupperware containers that grandma packed her home made biscuits in
I gotta add this - I know the MJK guys and could easily be accused of showing some favourtizm towards there products but I also do call a spade a spade .