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#1 lenny broke

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:29 PM

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I suppose some one had to bring it up.
Are we ready to start talking about 09 /10 series?
For mine I would like to see the previous years rule retained as per Martins website. whether we stay with WRC or go for something else........ Classic???
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 11:33 PM

I'll be in. Haven't given a lot of thought yet as to what.

Maybe 1 or 2 classes. Also options of being broader than the WRC cars.

I would be happy with Classics as one of the classes but not only due to a few of us having cars entered in the SCX Classic Rally. Link

A lot still learning on how to prepare a car etc so lets not make it too difficult. Simple rules but stick to them.

Will have to give it some more thought - any one and enough time and willing to put their hand up to get this on its way?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:18 AM

I'd certainly love to enter again. There are so many classic rally cars out there that the selection would be great, or I'd be happy to enter my Ninco Focus again!

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 07:08 AM

Lets go something completey different like the classics....................if anything just to stop people just re-entering the same car 3 years in a row with nothing different.

I know the SCX cars would be the main choice but they can be made to go well with ninco parts.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:19 PM

Yeah I'd love to be in the next one, I'll even have a track for a WA round by then....

I'd like to see a classics class and maybe a class for new model cars to stop ppl entering the same cars again.....
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:25 PM

View Postsilver rocket, on Jul 6 2009, 10:28 PM, said:

Yeah I'd love to be in the next one, I'll even have a track for a WA round by then....

I'd like to see a classics class and maybe a class for new model cars to stop ppl entering the same cars again.....

I'm sort of thinking the same way. Be great to have a WA leg (or two).

Nice repaint on your SCX car entered in the SCX Classics.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:35 PM

I should be able to swing a few rounds in WA as I spoke to Col about using one of his tracks for a round as well...


thanks for the kind words on the re-paint... :huh:
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:44 PM

What ever happened to the Raid class idea?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:28 PM

I am interested to see how this pans out. I like the idea of wrc cars but i know 3 years in a row might be boring for some entrants. Especially those that had good cars already seems it would be difficult to make them go even better. Classic might be worth a go there are some lovely old cars to do. Raid for me has as much appeal as open wheelers in regular cars (read zero) but there might be hordes of people who love them so majority decision perhaps.
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Posted 25 July 2009 - 05:19 PM

Bump

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 11:34 PM

Classics sound great!! Break out the Quattros.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 07:20 AM

View PostDevious Dave, on Jul 25 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

Classics sound great!! Break out the Quattros.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 10:57 AM

Classics or anything different, but like most, raid doesn't do it for me. We probably need to pick an era (70's, 80's, 90's or 00's) and just run with it.

My rally track will be offloaded soon so to be a host on wood can't happen. I would like to try a return to plastic on a layout with the rally loops - allows building a freestyle type layout for each heat.

Who is volunteering to be an organiser? I can help but not enough time to be lead organiser.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 06:49 PM

Classics would be nice, I would definitely enter a car. Posted Image

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:38 AM

View PostJohn Schoen, on Jul 29 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

Classics would be nice, I would definitely enter a car. Posted Image
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View PostTazracer, on Jul 26 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

Who is volunteering to be an organiser? I can help but not enough time to be lead organiser.

I'm a bit like you Tazracer and want to see this next one go ahead. In the past Organisres have had a thanless job with some entrants not appreciating the work and time involved. You would think they were racing for sheep stations.

With the current SCX Rally there appears to be little issues, showing we can be almost one happy family.

Could the role be split in two - say Organiser and Scrutineer ??

With currently 11 expressions of interest this will go ahead!
Summary
Lenny Broke - Classics
Ronan - Classics or last years
Smallnails – Classics
Silver Rocket - Classics or New Cars (not repeating last years)
On theflipside – as above
Blue95 – Raid???
First Corner Crash - WRC or Classics
Devious – Classics
Old Slot – Classics
Tazracer – Classics or anything different to last year
John Schoen – Classics
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 07:21 AM

Classics or anything but last years.
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:14 AM

Thanks for the good words on the SCX Proxy Mel.

Two packages from AUS never arrived for the SCX proxy at all. There is always a risk with shipping, but when this does happen it's really no fun because as the organizer you feel responsible for the cars, even though there is not much you can do about it.

Besides the missing cars the SCX proxy has gone through two events now without any hiccups, knock on wood, but as mentioned there is lot more work than most imagine involved in the organizing of these events. So balancing the workload between 2-3 persons is recommended. If one is the main organizer ("boss") and he get help from a tech inspector and a score keeper you should have a solid team to keep the series running.

If I may express my interest to participate in the series I'll add my vote for the classic's, or more precisely 80's and 90's cars.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:42 AM

I am interested in entering again and I am sure Phil will. But I was a little dissapointed last year that that penalties were applied to ILLEGAL cars IMO they should have been made legal,this probably looked worse that it was BUT the first 3 cars all did not comply with the rules. A similar thing has happened in the DUPR with cars being given penalties for changes to spec, when the rules say they cannot be changed.
I would like to see some rules that ARE RULES and not just guide lines and the cars comply with the rules.

So much for the rant!
I don't care if we run WRC again as I have one ready and last year was my first attempt,I also have a new Fly renault to set up that I won in this years event. But before anything is decided some thought should be given to what cars will be allowed. Classics has some very different choices available,revell,Fly,SCX and Ninco and the chassis layout include sidewinders. Would all these be eligible,would they all be allowed as there is some big differences in widths etc.
I also hope to have a rally track ready to host a round down here! I have a sheet of MDF up at Phils ready to route and a drawing only need time and his help to build it and for him to finf some where in HIS shed to set it up.

It is at least my idea and my MDF, he only has to supply everything else!
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:15 AM

I'd be interested in putting in an entry again, maybe if my cars that disappeared on the way to Norway for the SCX Proxy ever show up I can use one of them!!. Happy for any class or era, except Raid cars, just want to try and produce a better car than last year's overpowered and underperforming Peugeot.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:01 AM

re ; last years first three cars being illegal .
This is not a slag at you stig - just a general comment on how the proxy racing has been this year in my eyes .

From what I can remember without wasting my time trolling through all the post the "illegal" cars were 0.5mm too wide at the front , my car being one of those three at the top in the end . I measured the car when it arrived home with an "electronic" micrometer and to me it was 0.46 wider across the front wheels than across the front wheel arches . Does anyone really think that 0.46 over width gave the car a huge handling advantage ? The real advantage my car had was the Ninco brand name on the chassis . Now that its all over I must confess the two driver figures were lightened up to reduce the weight above the axles - A 1/8th drill bit up the drivers backsides eliminated at least 8 grams of unnecassary weight , However the car did develop a distinct whistle afterwards.
Seriously though are we really worried about 1/2 a millimeter ? I copped a penalty and to be honest it left me thinking , those people with electronic micrometers spoil the proxy fun . Maybe those pedantic types should consider seeing a doctor to get some laxitive tablets . Build rules are fine but how far do we really need to go ? A few basic build rules should be enough to cover it.
* Ground clearance - so the track isn't at any risk of damage
* Tyre rules - some tyres (silicones) will mess up some tracks grip levels and some track owners don't want them used , so we do need a tyre ruling.
* Other rules such as a car class rule as mentioned earlier 60's 70's 80's 00's so the field represents a certian type of car .
Im sure there are some more rules needed but Im not making or suggesting any rules here just making a point that too many rules can spoil the fun
re ; penalties - sending a car home or points against someone before it even starts .
Its a bit anal to say sorry put that one back in the box and send it home because its 1/2 or even 1mm over track . Most SCX and Ninco cars I have seen have there wheels hanging out 1mm or even 2mm when they are brand new . Why not let it go and allow the wheels to hang out a little - Only a little , say a 2 mm maximum , would it really hurt ? It could save some grief and maybe all the negative posts would be gone from Auslot so we can all sit back and enjoy the proxy for what it should be , a bit of fun on the side thats set apart from our local racing .
re 2010 rally car of choice I would prefer something different but if its the same again I will re enter the green machine with its front tyres trimmed 0.46mm narrower . Suppose I will also have to plug the driver and navigators butts with something - now that the weight reduction secrets out of the bag :lol:





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