Terry Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Can anyone help please? My next project will be the Brabham Martini BT44 F1 car. The scaley version will be what I will be using and its somewhat shorter than the Shadow I just finished and the scaley M23 MacLaren. Can anyone help me with the wheelbase and track measurements please? I've googled but no luck. Many thanks. Terry Edited August 23, 2008 by terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitlane3 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Can anyone help please? My next project will be the Brabham Martini BT44 F1 car. The scaley version will be what I will be using and its somewhat shorter than the Shadow I just finished and the scaley M23 MacLaren. Can anyone help me with the wheelbase and track measurements please? I've googled but no luck. Many thanks. Terry Hi Terry, below is the info from the Tamiya Instruction booklet. Hope this will help your project. Overall Length: 4296mm Overall Height: 1284mm Overall Width: 1992mm Wheelbase: 2413mm Track width, Front:1422.4mm Rear:1549.4mm Weight: 578kg Quote "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." Ferdinand Porsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Phil Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpanorama Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Forget the Scalextric version and try to track down a Spanish Scalextric version. A much better model and would require less work to turn into the Martini car. Quote Corporate greed is driving inflation. Cash, use it or lose it. No Digital Currency, No Digital ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Isn't the spanish version a BT46? Phil Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpanorama Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 The Spanish make both the BT44 and the BT46. Here is the BT44, like I said much better than the Scalextric one. Quote Corporate greed is driving inflation. Cash, use it or lose it. No Digital Currency, No Digital ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 The problem seems to be at this stage,wheelbase. The scaley version has a wheelbase of 63mm,the true to scale wheelbase is 76mm! My initial thoughts would be to use a M23 scaley chassis as I did for the Shadow,trouble here is that the scaley M23 wheelbase is 85mm! So,certainly the scaley body is too short,I can probably "cut and stretch" the body to squeeze a few extra mm out of it,but I don't want to spoil the look of the thing. Thanks for all the input guys,it all helps to help me get a good picture of where to go with this. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpanorama Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 If it helps the Spanish Scalextric Brabham BT44 wheelbase is a little over 76mm, almost right on what you need. Quote Corporate greed is driving inflation. Cash, use it or lose it. No Digital Currency, No Digital ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Thanks for that but I already had the scaley version and I've done a cut and stretch on the body,without too many dramas(???) Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) Well,thanks to all who gave me some direction in finding the correct wheelbase for the BT44,as I said earlier the problems were that the scaley version had a very short wheelbase of around 65mm,some 10mm shorter than the correct scale measurement,and to compound the problem the intended chassis was to be the excellent scaley Maclaren M23 which had a wheelbase of 84mm! So this is what I started with,got it off ebay about 2 years ago,the inspiration behind this was the same car was done by Jay Hardy,an excellent example of what could be done with this model. As the body was 10mm too short , I was left with no option but to extend the body. Cut the body using my Dremel,(I know I should have used a razor saw),with styrene used as a filler,lots of reinforcement and epoxy. Once I was happy with the body I then turned my attention to the chassis,which was 10mm too long,again with the Dremel ,I cut the chassis in two and rejoined it using a combination of piano wire and epoxy. More work to be done,but for now good enough to work on getting the chassis to fit the body. Much grinding cutting and generally "massaging" the area around the front axles was needed to get the front axle and suspension bits in to fit. Still got a fair way to go,the fit is almost there,just a little bit of tweaking,then I can start on the body,filling and sanding,then more sanding,and once I think I'm almost ready for paint.......still more sanding. I'm done for today,more to follow. Terry Edited August 23, 2008 by terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) Getting close to paint, Terry Edited September 11, 2008 by terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Nice work,it is starting to look like a Bt44 now. maybe I should get out the box of old F1 cars that I have and try doing some thing like this. Quote The Stig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbo Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Nice build Terry. What have you got planned next? Cheers Quote Alan Stubbings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhardy33 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) As always looking great Terry. Have you finished it? It looks like it's time to pull my Brabham out and rework the chassis. Give us an update. Edited January 7, 2009 by jhardy33 Quote Jay Grand Prix Slot Cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 As always looking Terry. Have you finished it? It looks like it's time to pull my Brabham out and rework the chassis. Give us an update. The build has stalled!! I'm flat out getting the track finished and have tried to concentrate on that,should be done this week,then Ill have more time to finish off those projects. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreinecke Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Terry, Your Shadow build has been wonderful to follow, and inspired me to do the same to the Scalextric 007 I'd gotten. I'm awaiting decals to finish it up. Additionally, I picked up 2 DN1s to replicate your efforts and the BT44 and JPS Lotus 77. I'm using the M23 chassis under each of them. I've got decals on order for all of them as well. I really like the way your BT44 is going! I'm doing things just a bit different though, and I've cut the car through the cockpit to deal with the wheelbase. I'm not quite done getting it even close to back together, so I'll post later. Thanks for showing us how great these cars can look and run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dave,you will need to show pics of your Brabham,it sits forlornly on my desk,but I will finish it,but the track has to be done 1st. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEJAY7 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Fabulous work Terry just waiting for the next one............. I'm keen to do a STP March with a Fly chassis, but I'm having difficulty getting hold of donor cars at a decent price......... Keep up the great work. Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawkk Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hi Terry, sorry to bring up an old thread but have you got ant finished photos? Cheers Quote Love, Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Well.... I sort of put the Brabham in the too hard basket,the more I looked at it the worse it appeared,I kept thinking the section between the driver and the front axle was all wrong. I do have some other older F1 bodies here,which I think are closer to the real thing,no Brabhams unfortunately but some rather okay Maclarens and Lotus(or is it Loti?) Seems to be that I have a growing list of things to do,and none of them are getting done,I've been diverted by Subaru Sports Sedans and the like. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawkk Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 bugger. i was looking forward to seeing it finished as i have just taken delivery of some resin BT44s. the same as what Phil has here http://www.auslot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13849-970s-f1-cars/ Quote Love, Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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