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Steve,

 

You'll find the QLD 1/24 and 1/32 formats here :

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You can download and/or print.

 

Some of these regulations have been included in the Nationals of course.

If you need more info, please let me know.

Cheers

Werner

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Steve,

 

I was digging about on the www late last night and kept these links for future reference, whether there's anything of use I don't know.................:

 

http://www.slotcars.com.au/7-ClubRacing.htm

 

Mainly 1/24 but a bit about 1/32

 

http://www.phoenixslotcars.com/class_listings.htm

 

http://www.q32racing.com/aboutq32.php

 

http://au.geocities.com/proslotwins/PVR2/AusTracks.html

 

http://au.geocities.com/asra_slotcars/BB.html

 

http://au.geocities.com/asra_slotcar_rules...aleGeneral.html

 

http://m.webring.com/hub?ring=slotzwebringfors

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Thanks guys for the links.

 

I've downloaded them all, and am planning to put them all in a spread sheet, with first column for details (motor, chassis, tyres, etc), then headings across the page for each class, group etc.

 

This way we can see where all the common items are, and maybe compile a "General" set of regs to cover most requirements, then have appendices for classes with specific requirements for each class.

 

It'll be a starting point, and will take a few days, so talk amongst yourselves untill I get this part done. :D

 

The www.one32.com.au sounds like a good name to cover the 1/32 scale. Maybe set it up as an identity like the HO and Drag racers have done.

 

I guess the same could be done with www.one24.com.au

 

How do we go about securing the names?

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ring up any hosting company. dont use godaddy or anything the like - they'll just steal your domain name, i always just type it in the address bar- if no page available then site is available

i use http://www.netregistry.com.au for mine ... @ $14.95/mth - includes many things too

 

.com.au sites too need to be a registered business in australia

or

what about setting up not-for-profit utilising the

.org.au

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IMO we should try and form the 1/32 scale Association and then try and draw up some rules that will be used for national and proxy events. This does not mean that every club that joins the association needs to run under those rules.

 

When CASCRA was formed back in '66 ( I think) each state ran under its own rules much as is done now, Rules were draw up for national events and people just built for those events.

Over the years many clubs changed there rules to the National rules.

 

I think it was Jamie who suggested that each state form an Association or elect some to be on the Association,that is the way it used to be done.

 

If we get bogged dpown trying to sort the rules at this time we will get nowhere.

 

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I don't know if it would work here but the basic structure of the R/C boat guys is simple and it works OK, the only catch is it does depend on things being functional at a club level as from memory, there are no individual state associations to complicate things...........as I said a few days ago it is " based on clubs who then elect an association (AMPBA) President, Vice-President and two commitee members, the structure has worked well for a long time with a membership that is probably no more than would be possible within the slot communities."

 

If this "project" progresses far enough, it would then be necessary to attempt to contact all clubs around the country, does anyone have any idea how to compile an accurate list of clubs? One thought that occured to me would be to try and get the importer/distributors on side and enlist their assistance as they probably know virtually every specialist slot retailer and commercial circuit.

 

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All of this is ok, and things can be done in parallel.

 

I'll keep on with the rules, as I think it could be usefull whether one or more associations evolve out of this activity.

 

So, how about we ignore the rules part of the discussion for a while, and look at other necessary parts of forming a/an association/s, keeping in mind that we would like to use common regs if/where possible.

 

What do we need to address next?

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Slot,

 

I would help where I can BUT, I'm only new to the forum, I know very little about slots in general and especially the competition end of things and I've probably rubbed a few people up the wrong way with my opinions, etc., on recently discussed topics <_< .............there should be an abundance of guys who would be a damned site more useful than me.

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A unified front for Scale racing should be possible but there are some fundamental difficulties it would face that other groups do not have as impediments. However nothing is ever solved by not trying. Have a read of the below story and see what may or may not fit for the Oz requirements

 

Many years ago in Pommieland I was a member of ECRA (Electric Car Racing Association). ERCA required a paid membership (remember this was in the days when we all looked to mediate rather than litigate when issues arose and safety only meant not getting caught, Herpies was Disney Volkswagon frantise, and a nice sunday joint still meant lamb or Beefwith two veg)

ECRA was 1/32nd scale based and was club based.

 

The monies went towards a Mag (which would be replaced by a site) and the maintenance of two tracks. More on them later.

 

The country was split up into areas (not counties/states as these were too big). Each area ran a championship. I think it was over about 6 rounds at tracks within that area. As it was not a State wide thing travelling was never really that big an issue.

Boundaries were drawn up long before I joined but they seemed to work (Unfortunately I was in with the group that seemed to have all the really quick guys – that’s my excuse anyway)

The top three from each area (I think – I am getting old and forgetful) in each class could then race in the nation finals. Naturally it was only ever open to fully paid up members (the more in the less it costs everyone)

The finals were only ever held on the ECRA owned tracks so no one had a home advantage. These tracks were only ever used for the finals and not used during the year (except for Open ECRA events I think which was maybe twice,three times a year but no one could evr practice on the tracks between events)

The winners then were true National Champions.

 

Rules for such a group as ECRA were much easier than we would have because there were only five classes raced and no manufacturers

Sports

GT

Sedan

F1

And a thing called F32 – which is now Parma International32. This last class was only open to those who had not made it through to the finals before and was very strict on what you could and couldn’t do.

 

All sounds good so far but the really big difference between them and us is that the cars raced were metal chassised with Vac formed bodies OK hence the few classes. We on the other hand have s**t load of possible classes plus different makes of car which add to the head ache of narrowing classes

However

As far as I can see, the country as a whole would not really need to agree to consistent rules or even car classes. We would just need to agree

How to get to the finals,

How the finals are going to be run

Where the finals are going to be run

What classes are run?

 

There is no way you could run finals for 20 classes of cars etc so rationalising would have to be put in place (hmmm 7.30am for the SCX NASCAR Nationals might be pushing it a bit)

 

Everything else could be state/area tailored.

So long as the national body is notified of when and where qualifying rounds are taking place it should matter a rats if the racing is crash and burn, Timed, Points etc

Or of the classes are Box standard no weight no tyre changes or modified, weighted, MJK etc. We all would race as we have been doing locally but set rules would be in place for the Finals.

News etc would be on a National basis – the forum already does that anyway.

 

Anyway it’s something someone might want to build upon

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Yep, something to think about.

 

From what I've seen in the regs so far, about 80~90% address classes of car, and relative specs to identify that car.

 

I feel that a national body should probably address a regulated selection of classes that becomes the mainstay of the association or associations.

 

There should enough classes chosen and regulated to allow any event organiser to make a selection from, then have maybe one or two 'novelty' events unique to that organiser. With guidelines on how to put regs together.

 

Anyway, I'll carry on with the regs, and post something in a day or so.

 

In the mean time, who is the someone that will help get the ball rolling on the organisational side of things, leaving the rules aside for the time being?

 

I can't do it all. If we're going to have an association, start associating.

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Are we looking a forming an official 1/32 slot car association or are we going to run one then apply to formalise it?

 

I think to start off we need to form a committee to do the leg work, one person from each state and territory would probably be the easiest. They will have to look at the following:

 

What is the name of the association?

 

The committee structure:

 

President: (after the first year, this person should be elected from last years committee)

Secretary:

Treasurer:

Public Officer:

Committee members: (I think this should be one from each state)

 

So I guess we are looking for nominations for the organising committee.

 

Lee

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Probably way too early but thought I'd throw it out there anyway. In Queensland we have Q32 and in Victoria there is V32 maybe for the National Collective we could try "AUS32" or even "OZ32" with each states racing group falling in under the National banner. Just a thought, I'll wander off now............and race my cars. Easy and simple to apply to caps, T shirts and body tattoos.

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I'll self nominate in place of any other for Secretary based in Vic.

 

Open to other submissions/substitute

 

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Are we looking a forming an official 1/32 slot car association or are we going to run one then apply to formalise it?

 

I think to start off we need to form a committee to do the leg work, one person from each state and territory would probably be the easiest. They will have to look at the following:

 

What is the name of the association?

 

The committee structure:

 

President: (after the first year, this person should be elected from last years committee)

Secretary:

Treasurer:

Public Officer:

Committee members: (I think this should be one from each state)

 

So I guess we are looking for nominations for the organising committee.

 

Lee

Public officer? What's that?

 

Do we actually need a treasurer? I'd imagine this is gonna be hard enough to get up without getting peeps to cough up too!

 

I should be able to set up a specific Email address and probably have more time during the day than many should you need a Secretary. I should probably set up an alter ego if I'm to do the job though.. it'd be good to be able to swap between 'official' and 'usual idiot' :)


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I would like to wish anyone who decides to get involved with such a project as this, the best of luck.

 

Lets say A32 gets up and going and has some set rules and classes etc, but X32 in one of the states is a happy bunch of campers and their rules differ to the rules set down by A32 in some classes. What is in it for them to run by a set of National rules ?

 

How would you convince half of the group who have never heard of Auslot or A32 that their rules should be changed for the benefit of all ?

 

Next someone will be telling me that for the rally arm of A32, I need to build my rally tracks to a certain spec and can only use a particular paint for the surface or something as equally specific.

 

While I believe this is full of good intentions, the fact that groups around the country are constantly evolving as racing groups as new cars become available and older cars become harder to find, I can't see the amount of work required to form something like this, is going to provide enough benefits to the people.


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may i ask??????

with an association being formed,

and as i could see and read , it seems to be an association for 1/32 scale only

what if the others are more inclined to 1/24th or HO ???

where would the association be racing regularly /weekly???

there are very few commercial tracks around the sydney area

against a lot of home tracks .

 

just asking...........

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I would like to think that such an association would be inclusive of, and to the benefit of, ALL slot car classes & types with input by and information available to all with an interest in the hobby!

 

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I'd also like to think that it would be inclusive of all slot car groups.

 

The HO, and Drag racers have already set up their associations, so we couldn't presume to set up an association that would 'govern' them. We could set up an association that they may wish to be part of, and therefor a National Association that represent all groups.

 

I don't see it as a bad thing if each state, and each scale has it's own local group, and still be part of a national body.

 

Here's an example that I've been following in the USA.

About 2 years ago, a group of enthusiastic old farts in Southern California had their fires lit with a suggestion of a retro style 1/24 slot car series. One guy came up with a set of rules for one class of scratch built slot car and called it Retro CanAm, and now known as D3. This set of rules is locked firmly in place being the foundation class of CanAm.

 

Another of the old pro's from the 60's & 70's built a stack of cars for others to try. This developed into an informal race at a commercial centre. More heard about it, and began building their own cars. The word spread and a group in northern Cal started, then East Coast, Texas, and Chicago. It is now in London and beginning in other places in Europe.

 

Each group wanted something a little bit different from the original SoCal rules and made their own. They got together in Chicago last year each with their cars built to their individual regs. There wasn't much difference in performance, but they recognised that there should be a common set of rules so that a National event could be held with similarly spec'd cars.

 

So they now have an overall body who maintains the national regs that anyone can use, and each group can run to their local regs.

 

What is now happening, is when a new group kicks off, they tend to use the national regs. In time, the national regs will probably prevail. That's not to say that each local will still want to do something different. But when it comes to a National event, the common rules are used.

 

While they had quite a bit of in-fighting and bickering, seems to be working for them now, and they are having a great time.

 

Anyone have any other thoughts on it?

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What about us Rally boys ? You could get a hold of the italian based regs for these.

Yeah, why not?

Can you post a link to the regs here for us?

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