BATHURST PROXY

[Pepsi62 11]

thanks Oldman...... A couple of other questions for you

With the FF050 motor used in Torana's, Cortina/Escort models can you modify and swap them out for FC 130? and are the slimcan motors eligible while rated by Scalextric at 18k they are not as most spin up around 25k????

Is the $5 entry fee a one off payment or is it per round?

thanks

[Shaynus 77]

20 hours ago, gazza said:

Put me down for 1, i'm now a local   

 

Quick question ....... 

Are we talking Bathurst / Hardie Ferado type specific or anything that raced at the Bathurst circuit up until and including 1990, that Scalextric has produced. 

G'day Gazza

We are aiming for the Bathurst / Hardie Ferado type cars ( the "Great Race" by it's various names), not just anything that has raced at the mountain over the years.

There is a wiki page link earlier in this thread, if that helps 

By the way... (chanting tone) One of us....One of us...One of us... 

[Shaynus 77]

On 6/2/2022 at 5:07 PM, charlesx said:

Hi Oldman.

I note you say wood guide. Clearly both your tracks have a deep slot.  Neither of my Camaros have a wood guide but my brother has one in his.

Regards Chas Le Breton (charlesx)

G'day Chas

You don't have to run a wood guide if you don't want to, but you can if you want.

Same goes with the tyres just outside the body. You certainly don't have to have them protrude, but if you want to (for what ever reason), you can.

Wood guides and wide wheels aren't mandatory, but allowable if so inclined.

[Shaynus 77]

3 hours ago, Pepsi62 said:

thanks Oldman...... A couple of other questions for you

With the FF050 motor used in Torana's, Cortina/Escort models can you modify and swap them out for FC 130? and are the slimcan motors eligible while rated by Scalextric at 18k they are not as most spin up around 25k????

Is the $5 entry fee a one off payment or is it per round?

thanks

G'day Pepsi62

Swapping the slimcan for a mabuchi is fine (kept in the same inline configuration of course ). Using a lightweight interior should free up room for the mabuchi motor to clear. Otherwise the standard Scalextric motors are fine to use too, if you want.

[Oldman 6]

The $5.00 entry fee is a one off fee and 100% of it is put in to prize money.

Postage time if you post around the 17 june we will wait for the cars to get here 13 July is only approx start time

The Camaro sounds fine to me

As you all would of gessed by now this is our first proxy we hope to make it a yearly event

thanks for your questions and your patience     Thanks Oldman

[charlesx 83]

Thanks Oldman and Shaynus.

I better pull my finger out if I want to get posted by 17/6/2022. I thought that was just closing date for entries. Appreciate it is your first proxy so I would suggest earliest posting should be 1 month after closing of entries but I will try to get away by 17/6. Perhaps you did not expect to attract O/S entries..

Based on your recent post Shaynus any motor is allowed up to 25000rpm providing motor orientation is as original. You could use an NSR  Mosler type FX180 or Slot-it flat can but please advise urgently if this was not intended. Flat cans are about the same length as the slim can. I am just going to swap Scaly FC130 for better version of same.

Note my Sierra RS500 wheels/tyres are only 54mm wide so the 1mm rule might suit them.

Note Sports Racer in Touring Car proxy limited Mosler tyre motors to 21400rpm if my memory serves me correctly.

Looking forward to proxy. Regards Charles Le Breton, New Plymouth, New Zealand.

Edited June 5 by charlesx

[Oldman 6]

Thanks Charlesx, ill let  Shaynus answer the motor part but the posting we will wait for any late posting if we know by the 17 June the #s we can start when all the cars are here

thanks Oldman

[charlesx 83]

Thanks Oldman.

I am retired so plenty of time. Making decals might be biggest task. Have not made any for a while.

Will let you know when posted and probably post progress on FB as I have trouble posting on AUSLOT.  

Regards Charles Le Breton

Edited June 5 by charlesx

[Shaynus 77]

11 hours ago, charlesx said:

Thanks Oldman and Shaynus.

Based on your recent post Shaynus any motor is allowed up to 25000rpm providing motor orientation is as original. You could use an NSR  Mosler type FX180 or Slot-it flat can but please advise urgently if this was not intended. Flat cans are about the same length as the slim can. I am just going to swap Scaly FC130 for better version of same.

Not any motor, just a FC130 (mabuchi) type if you want to change out the slimcan

[charlesx 83]

Thanks Shaynus. I understand long cans are not allowed. Clarification was not for me but to make rules clearer. My Camaro will have a up-graded FC130 motor.

Regards Chas Le Breton

[Sports Racer 152]

Please add me to the list of entrants.

Not sure which car yet.

Cheers

Paul

[Oldman 6]

Thanks Paul ill put on the list......thanks Oldman

[charlesx 83]

Hi again Oldman.

Sorry another question. Are you allowed to ease chassis/body to enable movement. Regards Chas Le Breton

[Oldman 6]

Hi Charlesx, yes just a bit for body float

[Sports Racer 152]

Can I use my Ford XB chassis that I've added extra plastic ribs on the inside to strengthen it? From underneath it looks standard.

It already has MJK's. Are you going to remove them to put yours on?

Can I lower the body on the chassis?

Can I raise the front and rear axles so the chassis sits lower?

An earlier post suggested max rear track be 60mm but my XB is 61mm wide and still fits within the body.

Bet when you thought of this proxy you didn't expect turkeys like me stretching the rules to the nth degree.

Probably why my local club made me scrutineer.

Edited June 7 by Sports Racer

[charlesx 83]

Hi Sports Racer.

Hear what you are saying but 60mm was to try and even out field as many earlier Bathurst cars were much narrower. Surely you can shift the wheels in a bit. If not install narrower tyres/hubs. Some of the other questions you raise however seem well outside brief for this proxy. It says standard Scaly body and chassis. I take that fairly liberally to mean no additions apart from that stipulated (motor, guide, ali wheels, tyres and gears) and only minimal deletions so allow change from  FC130 or slim can motor or the a bit of body float. With only 9 days before I have to post my car I implore the organisers to keep with the original rules.

I too have other cars that include many of Sports Racers changes but I am building a new car to comply with the rules for this event.

Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx)

[Oldman 6]

Hi Sports Racer, I think Charlesx has answerd you questions pretty well ....I must admit I had no idear there would be so many questions BUT IM GOOD WITH THAT next year will be easy to organise .....as for tyres we will fit and true new MJK  tyres here .....thanks Oldman

[Sports Racer 152]

Thanks for the clarification. Just means I need to spend more time making my car look legal. 

[Sports Racer 152]

Do you have pictures of the tracks you'll be using?

Helps with how I'm going to gear my car.

Thanks

Paul

[Oldman 6]

Hi Sports Racer, you should find my track under some posts  of Shaynus, and Syds track, if you look up WA Slot Car Group 

Mine is 16mt long with a 2.5mt straight........Syds is aprox 25mt long with aprox 4mt straight

Hope this helps......thanks Oldman

 

[charlesx 83]

Hi again Oldman. Can I use brass rear axle bearings or do I need to retain Scaly plastic ones? C Le B

[Oldman 6]

HI Charlexes, yes........what I should of stated from the begining is ......unmodified scalextric body and chassis( slightly trimed for body float) every thing eles is optional

thanks Oldman

[charlesx 83]

Hi Oldman. I will drive you crazy with these emails so please forgive me.

Have rolling chassis nearly finished complete with motor, ali rear wheels plus front tyres. Currently fitted with Slot-it wood guide but wondered if it needed shortening as I might otherwise use something else. Rear track/tyres are exactly 60mm (as I suggested) with MJK tyres loose fitted but I can narrow a bit if required. I only have a limited amount of MJK tyres so Syd will probably find some more suitable ones. Parts used include 25000rpm FC130 (proof of rating will be provided), light weight interior and windows courtesy of Munter/John Warren and driver from 1/32 metal car. I have retained the Scaly front axle and wheels but may change as axle fairly narrow. Current fitted with MJK tyres which are likely to change as too soft.

Very easy preparing a standard car (with minor alterations allowed) as there is little you can do to chassis or body. The Camaro is an easy car to build.

For Syd's benefit the 4219 MJK tyres are the right size diameter wise but hopefully he will be able to provide some wider ones. Going by rules looks like I need to do some MJK tyre research. Do you know what others use. I mainly have rally tyres.

As promised will put a progress photo on Facebook.

Regards Charles Le Breton

PS. I see weight is allowed but are you able to alter magnet mount in front of motor. If not I will cut lead to fit and cut/mount rest straight onto chassis floor 

Edited June 10 by charlesx
Add question re car build.

[Oldman 6]

Hi,  the guide should be OK I use slot it ch07 and they run well on Syds track and mine

[Oldman 6]

weight.....yes cut the magnet mount