Vinno Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Since this is an actual new model and not a repaint of an existing I thought it worth putting together a few pictures and initial impressions of the Tom Walkinshaw TWR John Goss Jaguar that raced and won in the 1985 James Hardie 1000. 1985 was the first year of the International Group A class in Australia and this opened up the Great Race to the Europeans who had the march on the Australian's. Tom Walkinshaw brought across his army of 3 V12 Jaguar XJS race cars and the rest is history. The Jag's had a 5.3 litre V12 and were well ahead of their opposition in this year. Although they were heavy at 1400 kg's they had approximately 500hp and were able to run with the widest tyres and hence a great package early in the classes history. So what of the Scalextric version? It is a great representation of the car and surprisingly narrow and long. The cars advantage is the low roofline which allowed a lower centre of gravity. As far as a slot car this seems to work quite well also. The specifications of the car as follows. Weight 77 grams Length 151 mm Width 54 mm Rear Track 51 mm Height 39 mm The car has all the usual Scalextric features like head and tail lights. Detail is good with excellent tampo printing, body detail with dry break fuel fillers moulded in, radiator grille, wheel detail and bumpers that simulate the brushed stainless look. The interior is limited due to the in line setup used but the driver, roll cage and dashboard detail almost make it perfect. I am one who is more than happy with Scalextrics move to in line motor setups over their typical sidewinder even if it gives up some space for a full interior. The only flaw with the Jaguar I can see is the front tyre gap to the wheel arch which measures at 2 mm. On a 1/32 scale car it is pretty obvious and while I don't want to have a complaint I have to call it out. It makes no difference to how the car runs but takes back a little from what is overall a beautiful representation. The car runs well in magnet form with perfectly round wheels and true axles. I am not a magnet guy so it ran like this on my Policar, Fleischmann plastic track for about 10 laps until I took out the magnet and gave it a run. With no weight added and a light spin on some wet and dry the tyres hooked up OK, not great but it was a bit of run controlling slides. Later I added some weight and took it to 89 grams which makes it the same as my Scalextric Sierra's and M3 BMW's. It did help and the car was surprisingly quick with standard tyres but still over half a second down on my Scalextric cars with Slot.it or NSR tyres. I then added some Slot.it N22 tyres and it was running the same times as my Ford Sierra's and faster than the M3's. Thanks again Scalextric I love the car and keep them coming. After all this I couldn't leave the front end alone and had to fix the front wheel gap by adding a brass axle tube and some thinner braid to drop the front end. Sorry to the purists but my cars are drivers and I had to do it. See the last two pictures if you want to know what I did. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Shame that they got the width wrong, it is about 4mm too narrow to be scale. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, kalbfellp said: Shame that they got the width wrong, it is about 4mm too narrow to be scale. That resin one I got from you is probably pretty close. It is also pretty much the fastest car on my track, not sure what it has but it is an absolute weapon. I can’t recall a nicer driving car and I am no expert at setting one up. Jagged it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malomay Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 And also.....what's their excuse for having a wider front wheel track than the rear ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Malomay said: And also.....what's their excuse for having a wider front wheel track than the rear ?? Optical illusion they are the same width. Might have taken the photo off centre. The real car does have a track 15mm wider in the rear though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malomay Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 15 hours ago, Vinno said: Optical illusion they are the same width. Might have taken the photo off centre. The real car does have a track 15mm wider in the rear though. I measured mine.....my eyesight isn't that bad that I cant read the numbers :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Malomay said: I measured mine.....my eyesight isn't that bad that I cant read the numbers :-) I have Slot.it tyres on the rear of mine now probably them that have pushed it out a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Scale width for an '84 should be 56mm. Quote Life is like a box of Slot cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 I think my resin is just on 55mm so Scalex is well under scale width. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Jaguar_V12_Bathurst_1000_1985_pole_lap_Hardies_Heroes_[Low,_360p].mp4 2 Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vinno Posted July 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 hours ago, kalbfellp said: I think my resin is just on 55mm so Scalex is well under scale width. The.one I have is 58.5 at widest point and rear track of 55.5. I might have been able to get the track 1mm more but it sits reasonably low. It is actually my quickest sedan by far on my track too with the Baby King motor in it. Centre of gravity is perfect and the balance between grip and tip couldn’t be better. Actually a freak of a car for me and the best one I have built. Waiting for the Bathurst Proxy to happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Hate to be a rivet counter but, why couldn't they get the white strip over the guards right None of the racing XJS' had the white over the top of the guard Oh well, one day Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 I dropped the front on my one, more fitting to the way i do things, rip, tear, bust. Removed the front bumper from the chassis and glued it to the body in the same position Ground away the inside supports of the bumper so it followed the silver all the way around Ground the side supports on the body as well as the motor supports on the chassis also the front body mounts. Ground away the bumper supports on the chassis and ground back the top of the spoiler so they were flush. Cut away the support for the lights and ground the bottom of the light board down about a mill Fitted it all back and much more goodera. Before ........ After ....... Still not happy they couldn't get the stripe right, but glad they built it, now for the 3 pack no's 8, 9 & 10, just in time for Xmas 4 Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaynus Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Good improvement, nice write up, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsmsoccer Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Looks good Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Racer Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Did you do anything with the guide? I had to fit a deep guide and lower the front because it kept coming out on tight corners. Handled as bad as one of Shayne's cars. Sorry, couldn't resist. 1 Quote May the downforce be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 6:03 PM, Sports Racer said: Did you do anything with the guide? I had to fit a deep guide and lower the front because it kept coming out on tight corners. I'm still using the standard guide, still stays in the slot, have to put a bit of weight in it yet Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaynus Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Maybe I should have entered a Jag instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Good bit of 'butchery' gazza. Mines landed in the country so shouldn't be too long and I'll be flogging your butchery tips too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermouse Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 7:53 PM, kalbfellp said: Shame that they got the width wrong, it is about 4mm too narrow to be scale. Which is unusual in slot car land - usually we are not happy that they made it too wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Yippee, arrived today and I had time after work to get it ready for slots tonight and a good result that runs well. Gazza's lowering tips (thanks mate), a bit of ballast, Slot.it C1 rears and NSR braid in a somewhat de-wobbled guide and 82gm all up with 47 of those over the rear wheels. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 9:24 PM, Wobble said: Yippee, arrived today and I had time after work to get it ready for slots tonight and a good result that runs well. Gazza's lowering tips (thanks mate), a bit of ballast, Slot.it C1 rears and NSR braid in a somewhat de-wobbled guide and 82gm all up with 47 of those over the rear wheels. How'd you go Wobble, changes work out all right or did it turn it into a dog. Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, gazza said: How'd you go Wobble, changes work out all right or did it turn it into a dog. Changes were/are good gazza and it went even better than expected. I reckon it'll be reasonably competitive and not at all like taking a knife to a gun fight. Just got to wait for this covid thing to sort itself out in the North Island and not pass it on to us, so us mainlanders can get out of lockdown and get on with life and get back to the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaynus Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Can anyone tell me which size MJK tyre would fit the rear wheels of the Jag, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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