rosco01 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hi folk, it looks as if lady luck has shone on me.... an aermodeling friend has been reading my reports on the Torana build (mainly lathe operation) and emailed me to ask if I wanted a Scalextric set of Peter Brock's and Dick Johnson's Sierras the he and his kids used to play with years and years ago that was just taking up storage space... he was going to throw it out.... or donate it to charity... I have claimed it... will let you know what eventuates... no idea of condition.. but, if nothing else, I'll certainly be looking at the two Sierras... frats, Rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bov Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Be prepared for a surprise at what Scalextric considered a Sierra, back in the day....... 1 Quote Cheers, Tony. There's only two questions: 1. What direction do you go 2. What's the Lap Record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 They could look a lot like Escorts,depending on how old they are. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I’ve got a couple of Shell Sierras from the early days and also a Texaco. After comparing with the latest ones throwing out is a viable option for the old ones. I have a heap of old school Scalextric and SCX cars that I will end up offering as spares for someone who wants them as they are really just hanging around taking up space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbzee Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) My guess is these cars... from a 1990 set I think it was Edited May 15, 2020 by Mobbzee Quote http://www.auslot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12014-mt-panorama-track/ ...My Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Mobbzee said: My guess is these cars... Yep that would be them. I remember how excited I was when I saw them all those years ago but they really drove terribly compared to modern cars. Ninco really made them lift their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bov Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Weren't they Rovers or Escort XR3s or something like that originally? Quote Cheers, Tony. There's only two questions: 1. What direction do you go 2. What's the Lap Record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, bov said: Weren't they Rovers or Escort XR3s or something like that originally? They used XR3’s with a Greenstuf paint scheme which they sold in a Bathurst track from memory. Others too as I think they used a Mondeo as an early Shell Falcon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbzee Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Vinno is right.... Quote http://www.auslot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12014-mt-panorama-track/ ...My Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinno Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Oh how it has changed. I recall the topic we had for years with a petition for Australian Cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbzee Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Vinno said: Oh how it has changed. I recall the topic we had for years with a petition for Australian Cars. Yes same here....I wonder if it was ever read by someone with influence Quote http://www.auslot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12014-mt-panorama-track/ ...My Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco01 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Wow, the forum looks amazing.... congrats to all concerned - lot of hard work gone into this with little thanks for it is the usual... thanks fella's. Yes, these are the cars I have..... I think there is more value in keeping the set intact.. it is a complete set and appears to be in good condition.. cars are used, but no damage. To a collector, with the box intact (with some bit of masking tape here and there to hold the corners together) - in time, this will be valuable. I don't believe I'll mess with either of the cars.... they are really not that good in detail... and wow!... a Commodore version as well...... thank goodness Scalextric finally put Oz on the map and made some of "our" cars.... thanks again folk... and again - congrats on the upgrade... frats, Rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big den Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 As Mozzbee commented 1990 is about right for the release date of the set containing the two Sierras. I can recall my oldest nephew having the set and he was born in 1982. The drawbacks with these cars were (1) the front wheels were located on floppy stub axles that were used to enable the cars to get around the steeply-banked curves supplied in the set, (2) the awful hump under the rear axle and (3) they are narrow-gutted with a high centre of gravity. Somehow I managed to inherit the Brock 05 car but have rarely run it as it is almost unusable on flat tracks. I did fit a solid front axle but high COG doesn't do a lot for the handling of the car. One of the current Launceston racers has started making 3D printed podded chassis for the Sierra and the Ford XR3i also mentioned in this thread but I've yet to put one of these on track. When the UK lockdown eases I thinking that I may get hold of some of the JS 3D chassis which use a one-piece 'torsion bar' style design. Den Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotspeed Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) On 5/15/2020 at 10:29 PM, Mobbzee said: Vinno is right.... Wow, my brothers and I had a set with "Brock and Johnson " cars, I think they were supposed to be Sierras, but actually looking nothing like Sierras, looked a bit like the form pictured here, though the "Brock" car was a Mobil-like livery, so must have been a later release, late 80's I guess. I seem to recall them being quite disappointing, I remember someone pulled the Brock car apart "to see what is wrong with it" but I don't think it ever went back together again. We still have it somewhere. That SD1 #17 liveried car is just wrong!!! Will have trouble getting that out of my immediate memory! A bit of a laugh though. Edited May 19, 2020 by Slotspeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grt Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Although those early Aussie cars were just revamped Escorts, which were terrible to drive, you can convert them into a decent handling car, if you are prepared to butcher it a bit. Wouldn't do it on those rarer Aussie cars, but I did finish off a chassis lowering job I picked up off someone else. I think the ride height was dropped a good 4 or 5 mm, and it makes a huge difference. There are probably neater ways to achieve it, but I decided not to try and undo what had been done, and instead just cleaned it up, added finishing touches and ended up with a fairly decent runner. Gave a Rover the same treatment and it runs even better. There are more pics and comments here: XR3i Quote Graeme ~~~~~~ (Life is like a sewer....................What you get out of it depends on what you put into it!) https://gtoutweb.com/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool62 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 I have mentioned this in another thread but I have a couple of these Sierra's. Last week I ordered 2 PCR chassis for the latest models and plan to modify them to fit the early body. Bit of creactive cutting and you never know your luck in the big city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool62 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 5/16/2020 at 8:06 PM, big den said: As Mozzbee commented 1990 is about right for the release date of the set containing the two Sierras. I can recall my oldest nephew having the set and he was born in 1982. The drawbacks with these cars were (1) the front wheels were located on floppy stub axles that were used to enable the cars to get around the steeply-banked curves supplied in the set, (2) the awful hump under the rear axle and (3) they are narrow-gutted with a high centre of gravity. Somehow I managed to inherit the Brock 05 car but have rarely run it as it is almost unusable on flat tracks. I did fit a solid front axle but high COG doesn't do a lot for the handling of the car. One of the current Launceston racers has started making 3D printed podded chassis for the Sierra and the Ford XR3i also mentioned in this thread but I've yet to put one of these on track. When the UK lockdown eases I thinking that I may get hold of some of the JS 3D chassis which use a one-piece 'torsion bar' style design. Den @big denI finished off my two early Dick Johnson red and yell Sierra's. I got a couple of PCR chassis and modified it to suit. Got the rear mounting hole to line up the did the old wall plug front mount post trick. Still have to finish the wheel inserts as I robbed the wheels off a couple of HRS2 kits I had. They came up pretty well and actually don't look out of place with the other late version Sierra's and other Aussie touring cars of that period. This afternoon I will be dropping down the local track and seeing how they go which is where it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big den Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 G'day Oldskool62 It's hard to believe that 8 months has passed since we were discussing this topic. Glad that you've been able to complete a couple of cars. You mention the HRS2 kits. Recently in another topic I suggested to someone (was it you?) that these (the HRS2s) are a good option when you need to find a chassis for a special project. They also have the great advantage of still being available while other good products such as the PCS chassis series a becoming more difficult to obtain. Those JS 3DP chassis that I mentioned last time have been delayed due to the UK going back into lock-down and I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to arrive. No shortage of other projects to help me fill in my time though! Den 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool62 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) @big denBeing new to this forum there is such good information and older discussions that are well new to me :). Mate I'm the same, no shortage of projects and more bodies on order to keep the production line going :). I have had that old Dick Johnson Bathurst Sierra set sitting around for years and anyway I thought that I would love to resurrect the old car and see what I could do to them without butchering them too much. Over the years I did the front axle mod etc etc and well put them back on the shelf. Anyway over Christmas I pulled them off the shelf along with one of my late model Sierra's to see what I could do. Anyway the Sierra PCR chassis was selected as the weapon of choice and with a bit of grafting both the old DJ 17 & 18 cars were given a new life. I had a couple of HRS inline kits sitting around that I was going to use but wasn't prepared butcher the bodies and that's why I went the other path with the PCR chassis. I ended up using the wheels motor/pod etc from the HRS2 kits. I'm not fussed on wheel originality so am gutting down the plastic inserts you get with the HRS2 kit and making the Slot.it look like deep dish Simmons wheels. Last Thursday I took them to the local track in Penrith for a bit of a trial and they go really well. Aside from body and pod float there has been no other tuning. I'm going to play with weight later on but that can weight. As far as the HRS2 kits go. I really like them. Being new to building cars I haven't tried to build a chassis. The HRS2 kit for me and what I want to do with my cars is affordable and reasonably complete. You get the motor configuration options which is good . I know there are better chassis out there but at this stage I don't race my car's. I will once I move but for the meantime I take them to the local track in Penrith and play. Edited January 30, 2021 by Oldskool62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco01 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Sounds as if you are finding fulfillment in this hobby, OS-62... good stuff. I have a couple of HRS2 kits - one was planned for a 280Z.. but I'm leaning towards making up my own chassis for that.. and the HRS-2 can stay in wait for another day... I haven't run either of my refurbed little donor Bathurst Set cars yet... or any of the 8 plus cars I have picked up since the last time I put a track together... be a full on day just setting up the SCP-2 controller for each of them... Glad to learn you are enjoying what we hope will be a long lived passion for the hobby... frats, Rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool62 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 @rosco01I always had an enjoyment out of building models. Plus I have dabbled with slot cars over the years. I guess its the best way for me to bring both together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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