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Hi folk,

it looks as if lady luck has shone on me.... an aermodeling friend has been reading my reports on the Torana build (mainly lathe operation) and emailed me to ask if I wanted a Scalextric set of Peter Brock's and Dick Johnson's Sierras the he and his kids used to play with years and years ago that was just taking up storage space... he was going to throw it out.... or donate it to charity...

 

I have claimed it... will let you know what eventuates... no idea of condition.. but, if nothing else, I'll certainly be looking at the two Sierras...

 

frats,

Rosco

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Be prepared for a surprise at what Scalextric considered a Sierra, back in the day.......

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I’ve got a couple of Shell Sierras from the early days and also a Texaco. After comparing with the latest ones throwing out is a viable option for the old ones. I have a heap of old school Scalextric and SCX cars that I will end up offering as spares for someone who wants them as they are really just hanging around taking up space. 

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My guess is these cars...

from a 1990 set I think it was

 

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1 minute ago, Mobbzee said:

My guess is these cars...

 

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Yep that would be them. I remember how excited I was when I saw them all those years ago but they really drove terribly compared to modern cars. Ninco really made them lift their game. 

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Weren't they Rovers or Escort XR3s or something like that originally?

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Just now, bov said:

Weren't they Rovers or Escort XR3s or something like that originally?

They used XR3’s with a Greenstuf paint scheme which they sold in a Bathurst track from memory. Others too as I think they used a Mondeo as an early Shell Falcon too. 

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Oh how it has changed. I recall the topic we had for years with a petition for Australian Cars. 

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1 minute ago, Vinno said:

Oh how it has changed. I recall the topic we had for years with a petition for Australian Cars. 

Yes same here....I wonder if it was ever read by someone with influence :)

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Wow, the forum looks amazing.... congrats to all concerned - lot of hard work gone into this with little thanks for it is the usual... thanks fella's.

 

Yes, these are the cars I have..... I think there is more value in keeping the set intact.. it is a complete set and appears to be in good condition.. cars are used, but no damage.

To a collector, with the box intact (with some bit of masking tape here and there to hold the corners together) - in time, this will be valuable.

I don't believe I'll mess with either of the cars.... they are really not that good in detail... and wow!... a Commodore version as well...... thank goodness Scalextric finally put Oz on the map and made some of "our" cars.... 

 

thanks again folk... 

 

and again - congrats on the upgrade...

 

frats,

Rosco

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As Mozzbee commented 1990 is about right for the release date of the set containing the two Sierras. I can recall my oldest nephew having the set and he was born in 1982.

The drawbacks with these cars were (1) the front wheels were located on floppy stub axles that were used to enable the cars to get around the steeply-banked curves supplied in the set,  (2) the awful hump under the rear axle and (3) they are narrow-gutted with a high centre of gravity.

Somehow I managed to inherit the Brock 05 car but have rarely run it as it is almost unusable on flat tracks. I did fit a solid front axle but high COG doesn't do a lot for the handling of the car.

One of the current Launceston racers has started making 3D printed podded chassis for the Sierra and the Ford XR3i also mentioned in this thread but I've yet to put one of these on track.

When the UK lockdown eases I thinking that I may get hold of some of the JS 3D chassis which use a one-piece 'torsion bar' style design.

Den

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On 5/15/2020 at 10:29 PM, Mobbzee said:

Vinno is right....

 

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Wow, my brothers and I had a set with "Brock and Johnson " cars, I think they were supposed to be Sierras, but actually looking nothing like Sierras, looked a bit like the form pictured here, though the "Brock" car was a Mobil-like livery, so must have been a later release, late 80's I guess. I seem to recall them being quite disappointing, I remember someone pulled the Brock car apart "to see what is wrong with it" but I don't think it ever went back together again. We still have it somewhere.

 

That SD1 #17 liveried car is just wrong!!! Will have trouble getting that out of my immediate memory! A bit of a laugh though.

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Although those early Aussie cars were just revamped Escorts, which were terrible to drive, you can convert them into a decent handling car, if you are prepared to butcher it a bit. Wouldn't do it on those rarer Aussie cars, but I did finish off a chassis lowering job I picked up off someone else. I think the ride height was dropped a good 4 or 5 mm, and it makes a huge difference. 

There are probably neater ways to achieve it, but I decided not to try and undo what had been done, and instead just cleaned it up, added finishing touches and ended up with a fairly decent runner. Gave  a Rover the same treatment and it runs even better. There are more pics and comments here: XR3i

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