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#21 Pedro51

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:22 PM

What do I say?

I brought slot cars I liked for years (10 or 12 years at least), before I saw a proper slot car track. My early purchases were because I liked the car and they would "run". I still do, it probably helps that I am not an anorak about scale accuracy, my imagination makes up for shortfalls. I can't bring myself to collect diecast - at great expense, when their sole purpose is to sit on the shelf, but I can see why people do. Because at that early stage my cars were not being used I had no idea that some would perform better than others, dumb eh.

Now I enjoy racing? If my car runs well, ie. has some grip and isn't bog slow on the straights compared to others in the class, I consider I have had a good night.

Since actual retirement, as opposed to sending "her who must be obeyed" out to work, strangely my budget has become pretty flexible, (with no family it seems sensible not to get to the end with any money left over), however my ability to buy cars does not threaten the podium guys because my driving sucks! and I don't care. I am though, quietly pleased, when I fluke a good result.

I am slowly improving my set up skills, thanks Mac, and I get pleasure in improving a cars performance, but it is also cool to drive a well set up car - usually Mac's, meanwhile while I build skills it is nice to run a Sideways Huracan nearly box stock.

I think I lack the NEED to win, I'm happy to make up numbers and I see one of my rolls as making other drivers look good.

Perhaps my problem is too many interests and not enough time to dedicate myself to perfecting any. More later - maybe.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:56 PM

I still donít get the chequebook racing thing. I buy maybe 1 car a year to make me more competitive in our local series. Thatís about $2 a week to supplement my hobby. $2 a week. Hard to see the extravagance in that.

In saying that I buy and sell a lot of slot cars each year. Trading stuff is second nature to me but I donít want to feel guilty because I spend $125 on a fast car every year or so.
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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:30 PM

Over the years i have met many people in slot car racing, you have the Good the Bad and the Ugly , some have a Fistful of dollars, and can afford the latest of anything, some have the ability to make a pigs ear go fast, and there are those who just have not got it, in any form but want to be involved and just have a bit of fun and be in the company of same minded people.
I am no longer a racer as there is nowhere to race, do i miss it!!!!!!!!, yes you bet i do , miss the big head, the silly arse, the club champion, the new boy who is eager to learn , the marshalls who are talking about last night as your car lays upside down in the scenery, Mrs P and her tray of teas and cakes at half way , great just sitting there going over the night so far with a cuppa and a rock cake in your oil smelling hand with your buddies as we all repaired our cars together , in those early days things fell of or got knocked of, we were all friends, and we shared the same thing in the end the love of slot cars.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:31 PM

Is a good topic Munter

Mac, don't suffer from a success complex - as the old saying goes - the more you put in, the more you get out.

Your point is good about car tuning effort.
Unfortunately, I have seen many "lazy" racers accuse racers with more "tuning application" of racing for "sheep stations".
Results reward effort in my book.

Munters question about $ vs results.....spend will always be rewarded unless there are control measures in place.
Manufacturers are always finding improvements to relieve us of our hard earned cash.

Break out times and weight minimums are good ways of keeping older cars in the mix, without ignoring new technology.

Having said that, there is always room for one or two "Open" classes [like F1 used to be], where $ don't matter, only results :)

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:33 AM

I think the cars appearance is the interest to me, I like cars from my era, if the run well even better.

I can go out to the shed, no timing on, and lose a lot of time running a few cars, doing just one more lap����
Tweaking a car to improve its drivability I enjoy, more so then making it fast.

Race nights To me are a social evening where we play with slot cars.




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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:30 AM

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You say a Sideways Corvette, When are these due out ......

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:52 PM

So far Thunderslot have not brought out a T70 in a livery that appeals to me so I don't have one and there is nothing about the Lamborghini Huracan that makes me want to buy one but maybe a different livery might entice me. Admittedly that chassis under a different body might have more appeal for me. One bloke that used to race with us used to get his Huracan out in our 18k GT class and that was a joke. While we're trying to squeeze 18 laps out of our Scaley or FLY GT's in a 3min race he's doing sub 8sec laps for 22+ laps. Similar outcome with his TS Lola in our pre 80's class.

Maybe there's more than one type of racer.

Recently we had 18k Nascar for a class one night and my AMT kit T-Bird cleaned up big time with almost 2 lap advantage so I've since put a slower motor in it. My NSR 917K seemed a bit sluggish so I replaced the standard motor with a 22K Shark and that had a similar outcome with almost 2 lap advantage so that will also be detuned. Rather than whitewashing the field I prefer a race where the cars are pretty much equal and you've got to drive for the win and the last couple of bends before the finish line determines whose cool headed enough to bring it home and there's only a car length or 2 in it.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:57 PM

Me? I love a good whitewash. Makes me feel good. A big winning margin pays back the hard yards tuning and testing and ahem, ahem..... it sets a benchmark for others to aim for. Canít see the point in dumbing things down. Whereís the fun and reward in trying to go slower?

In saying that (and yes I know Iím sounding like a right wanker) I never forget that, in our local group, none of the really fast guys show up anymore so I get more than my share of wins at the moment. It probably wonít last but itís fun while it does. Winning is cool. I thoroughly recommend it.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:22 PM

Just on the 2 cars mentioned as dominators-
Our pre 72 class is regularly won by NSR P68's and Slot It McLarens over Thunderslots.
Also Scaleauto and NSR's regularly win the GT3 class over Sideways cars.

I do find the speed of all new 1/32 cars ridiculously fast though. Trying to get MJK tyres onto 1 or 2 classes to slow em down a little.


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 07:42 PM

I agree. The good cars are soooooo fast now.
In saying that, I think 2019 could see me splash out on a Sideways Huracan. If Munter is going to be hating on me for my single Thunderslot, I may as well buy a Huracan and put the blowtorch on GT3. Booyah!!!!
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 05:13 AM

so what is life like for a slotcar enthusiast who doesn't race?

Anybody?
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:09 AM

You head into the garage turn the light on and take the covers of your track , see who's around usually a few spiders down by the bottom bend , do make some nice web's there.
You turn the power on listening to the echo of silence, and get a slot car out of the box and all on your own you race against the clock trying to improve the time you last did with that car, and sitting on the stool you remember times past when there was the sound, of people in there the gossip normally about slot cars , laughing , swearing and the general noise, now just the sound of the wind rattling the door occasionally.
It is soon time to switch of leave the spiders to remake their web's put the covers back over it and turn the light off and head back to where the boring telly is, and yes it,s B frustrating. :unsure:

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:12 AM

Hey, you have seen me in action!!!
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:14 AM

It's a dark and lonely place Munter....be thankful that you have the opportunity to finish mid pack on a club night....oh how I yearn to finish mid pack.
I often wonder how many slot cars I could buy if I didn't have to fork out so much of my well earned dosh on petrol to travel so far to race meetings.
Last Friday I ventured to Nelson (5 hour round trip) for an hour long test and tune session. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but that's the price I pay for my addiction/passion.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:23 AM

Iím 39 with a 4yr old little girl & 7yr old boy....I work 5 days a week with the odd Saturday.....So I donít race, I PROXY race all over the world as you can see in the picture this is how I build my cars ...No fancy benches just the kitchen bench so I can still be with the family

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I donít need to worry about all the different classes & Rules
When I tune my cars I walk in to my Sunroom and enjoy the piece an quiet thatís my non slot car Racing Schedule
Ow and I donít need to worry about racing for Sheep stations as my club didnít allow you to race at a level you chose to race at ....

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:43 AM

View Postbranco, on 13 January 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:

It's a dark and lonely place Munter....be thankful that you have the opportunity to finish mid pack on a club night....oh how I yearn to finish mid pack.
I often wonder how many slot cars I could buy if I didn't have to fork out so much of my well earned dosh on petrol to travel so far to race meetings.
Last Friday I ventured to Nelson (5 hour round trip) for an hour long test and tune session. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but that's the price I pay for my addiction/passion.

Don't develop an interest in racing toy motorbikes, the closest I can attend a race meeting is Australia, supplemented with an occasional trip to Europe.

My goal is to one day not finish last

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:47 AM

It's not all about winning but when you do it's always good fun, all racing is.

Actually attended another track an hours drive away on Friday night for the first time, good fun on a smaller more technical track.

I've had the most fun when coming second to another racer with the winner only being decided by the last turn,

That definitely gets the adrenaline pumping.

Most of my cars are set up on a Sunday afternoon in the shed with a few quiet beers.

I'd say those set up early on are probably the best runners lol.

My racing also improves if I've had 4 beers before racing (tried 3 and 5 but 4's the magic number lol).

I just seem to settle, not worry about what everyone else is doing and just get into a groove, enjoy and find I can push even harder.

I used to just plod along at home tinkering with my own cars but it is fun to get out and race others, wish I'd started sooner.

Just wish there were more tracks around instead of the couple I frequent.

I'm not just all about restorations and Lotus 16's.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:22 PM

A few things here

Munter is seldom "mid pack" if he isn't on at least one podium each club night, I'll eat my Difalco - unsalted.

Wobble - Every time I hear something like " Our 18K class " I cringe and want to go out the back and kick a portaloo for 5 minutes ALA Murphy. Motor power has only a loose and vague connection to RPM. You guys need to look at the club rules and make some changes. Using RPM as a power control instead of wattage is severely limiting, and de-equalizing. How can an 18K FF050 motor or even S-can compete with an 18K Boxer motor with 3 or 4 times the torque and thus power. Whose portaloo do I kick, Wazza's a Welford's? Motor Power Article

All said and done there is at least as much in good car setup as there is in difference between best beast and most other offerings in the class. That gives guys with a smaller cheque-book ample opportunity to foot it with those spending spending spending, - IF they are willing to put in the time to improve a car.
I think the HBMRC rules are a pretty good leveler of playing fields in that respect. There are a couple of classes I'd have liked a little different - still would, but on the whole they do a good job of leveling the field. Mac re-rewrote them into primary school year 3 english for us a few years back and that made it possible for most of us to see the wood for the trees - worth guys taking a look at our rules page.

Caddo - too much power, - volts, volts will do it. On a couple of our smaller tracks including mine, dropping even say our stock Group C Slot.its to 10V made them like a new, tractable and very pleasurable car to drive.

Mac - Okay, I'll let the guys know we can take the throttle-stops off our controllers and stop using the chokes now. :lol: :lol: :lol: :ph34r:
You're bigger than me, the magic liquid malt number for my modest frame is about 1.3 . . . .

The Thunderslot Lolas. They are good, but on Mac's track, Mac driving, I noticed you were barely a 1/10th a lap faster than my 7 year old Slot.it Matra last club night we ran them. Or were you sandbagging?
At Tony's track in May, I used my Matra as a speed benchmark against my NSR 908 - it was 3/10ths faster, as fast as the best guys like the Bidwells, that Millings bloke and Dion, and and still a 10th faster than most guys were driving the Thunderslot Lolas on Sunday which Tony and Westie and set up for the vent. My Matra is only 2/10ths quicker on most tracks than about 6 other assorted 65 - 80 sports I own, so I don't see it as a problem of anyone needing a Thunderslot to be competitive in 65 - 80 sports classes - it may just be 'easier' to get the Thunderslot up to speed out of the box. Again, that is echoing Caddo's comment. I also seem to remember "mid-pack-munter" pulling out a Matra recently and that was about as quick too.

I have just set up a Sideways Huracan, it feels nicely planted on my small track, even with the stock "medium" tyres - which are a pig to true. But it isn't THAT fast with the 17k Baby Raptor. My ScaleAuto Merc with a Slot.it orange-bell in a sidewinder pod is still quicker - about 2/10ths lap. Same power, lighter, more nimble. I m yet to put a high power boxer motor into the Lambo for testing.

So that's all the thoughts I can muster this week .....
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean about "18k", but I just get an email on Tuesday saying what classes will be running on Wednesday evening and if they're "18k" or "open". And unfortunately that's open to interpretation and some use FK-180's and some also use Slot.It motors and tell you they cant imagine why it's so fast. You know why it's quick 'cos you marshalled it one night and remembered such and such a car has such and such a motor when you went to grab it and turn it the right way up. .
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 03:14 PM

And another thing you can do Wobble, if it is "18K " - demand that all Scalextric black stripe cars be removed from track, they have been at least 20k for several years. Some dyno up as high as 23k.

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