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2018 Nz/au Group 5 Proxy At Mt Panorama In Sydney Au


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#1 Ontheflipside

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 10:51 PM

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18.2mtrs in length. Routed MDF with recessed braid non magnetic and a Ferrodor (micaceous iron oxide) finish.

RC timing, Slotit hand controllers. Power 10v

Conrod Straight 5m Including the “Chase”. Mountain Straight 3.5m

Outside lane is 400mm longer but the quickest.

Rise from Pit straight to the top of the mountain – 500mm

Top of mountain down to Forrest Elbow – 350mm

Infield Rally track is not used in a road race.


Qualifying finished. Results and comments will be posted early tomorrow (eyes not working to well late tonight) :wacko:


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:55 AM

All cars arrived ok except the # 09 Porsche had a broken rear wing and car # 1B (Als) Capri. Missing the driver :)

I don't believe these times mean a lot but still good fun to run.
It's how consistent the car runs overall. But I will race cars from the lowest lap times to fastest
Most cars did around 30 laps to get a rating. The inside (shortest lane) was used but the outside lane is quicker so nodoubt we will see some quicker laps during the event.
This track is very unique to most race tracks due to the incline, undulations and tight corners, so I am expecting some different results to the norm.
Also sprung guides work best on this track but I'm surprised how well all cars performed and really were not disadvantaged.


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For what it's worth the track record is 5.156 with a GT car.

Cars are now in Parc fermé waiting for race to begin.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:01 PM

wow there are some very interesting results
I wasn't expecting that
Holdens rule the rest just drool
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:20 PM

View PostDavid Carter, on 03 December 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

wow there are some very interesting results
I wasn't expecting that

This track is fun to drive but also known to put the cat amongst the pigeons

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 01:32 AM

Thanks for the qualifying. As much as I love the track I hate it for Mustangs. Good luck to all and thanks for hosting the round.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:44 PM

View PostBrumos RSR, on 04 December 2018 - 01:32 AM, said:

Thanks for the qualifying. As much as I love the track I hate it for Mustangs. Good luck to all and thanks for hosting the round.
Your car was catching on a proud join in the track caused when we moved house. I have a Nascar that does the same, but I have now fixed the problem.
In the qualifying I needed to back off a little near the joins. So now expect a quicker lap time during the race.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:16 AM

Thank you, but I truly hope this adjustment helps all participants.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:09 PM

Really look a great bunch of cars there together , quali times are interesting bigger gap between the field than normal , pity this is the last year of the GP5 proxy for the forseable future being quite competative .

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:08 AM

View PostPeter Gunn, on 06 December 2018 - 07:09 PM, said:

, quali times are interesting bigger gap between the field than normal , pity this is the last year of the GP5 proxy for the forseable future being quite competative .
Big difference between some cars performance across the top and down the mountain. Also through the Chase.
Yes a pity about next year. It's a real Buzz driving these great cars
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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:15 AM

Some pics taken by the wife while I was doing some warm ups to test each cars performance prior to running the qualifying.
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Under full throttle heading up Mountain straight over the hump

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Needed to brake earlier but Mountain straight is a high speed straight and corner, so getting it right gets faster laps

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Quite often taking a short cut through the Chase sand trap will pick up time if the car lands back in the slot and this happens 80% of the time. Never done on purpose. :P

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Another getting some air over the hump. Usually hear it but hard to get a good pic. Will try and get a slow motion video.

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Circled are spots where the back wheels land spinning.

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mostly quick across the mountain but some laps a little tipsy at the dipper :unsure:

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Right at the top of the mountain. Most cars handled this corner OK but where we have a Marshall standing ;)

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Too fast down the mountain and you don't make it through Forrest elbow. Usually a little throttle at the top and let the car
roll down the steep decent.


A map of Mount Panorama showing track locations I often refer to


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Too quick again.

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A dip before Murray's Corner then around a slightly off camber corner. All cars seemed to handle this OKPosted Image

The infamous Cutting. A bit tough on this "Stang". Was difficult to handle but after many warm up laps I controlled it OK
Could have done with more ballast on this track. I haven't weighed it but feels the lightest car in the group.

Edited by Ontheflipside, 08 December 2018 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 08:15 AM

Had some visitors last night so I took the opportunity to run the yellow lane race with some handy Marshalls.

Just downloaded the results so will simplify and pretty up and post shortly
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Posted 08 December 2018 - 09:18 AM

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Some surprises and disappointments :blink: :rolleyes:

I have a lot on my plate the next few days so pending having 1 or two marshals I hope to run the (inside) green (final) lane. this Tuesday or Wednesday..

Edited by Ontheflipside, 08 December 2018 - 09:40 AM.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 10:04 AM

Nah Mel, just quit while it's the highest the Capri has ever been!..... :D

Great stuff !!
Cheers,

Tony.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 10:27 AM

Thanks for running, my highest finish yet LOL.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 01:03 PM

nice track,thanks for the good run.
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Posted 08 December 2018 - 02:52 PM

Mel
Great recap. Hey Tony how you doing up there? Looks like the fastest qualifiers are not always the easiest to drive
Good luck to all with the last lane
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Posted 08 December 2018 - 05:23 PM

Ouch did not see that coming for the BMW been consistently faster than the Mustang.

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 06:15 AM

Only 3 laps down and big air (more than once it seems) for the Porsche with a good fast lap. Thatís ok.

BTW, the car was set up on a tight track - a little softer on the throttle and the Car should flow around the corners and elevation ok. With the thunderslot motor, there is enough torque to lift the front if you are a bit aggressive...

Have fun.
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 08:55 AM

View PostPeter Gunn, on 08 December 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

Ouch did not see that coming for the BMW been consistently faster than the Mustang.
Just had a look at some notes and can only surmise a couple a things.
The Beamer did struggle down the mountain a bit and while it has wider tyres than the "Stang" it is also 7.6g lighter.
Temperature during the earlier part of the race was 38deg C but mid afternoon to evening it dropped to 23deg C.
That was having an effect of around 1-2 seconds per lap on several cars the Beamer was 2nd last run.
Around lunchtime the track was rubbering up well and temp was increasing so cars in that bracket were running quick with great grip.
Best of luck in the next race Keith.
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 09:07 AM

View Postdifinity, on 10 December 2018 - 06:15 AM, said:

Only 3 laps down and big air (more than once it seems) for the Porsche with a good fast lap. That's ok.

BTW, the car was set up on a tight track - a little softer on the throttle and the Car should flow around the corners and elevation ok. With the thunderslot motor, there is enough torque to lift the front if you are a bit aggressive...

Have fun.
Tony
I did have fun Tony.
There we no "offs" with your car during the race and being a late runner temp may have been a factor. (see my response to Peter Gunn)
The pictures were taken during some warm up laps prior to the qualifying where I possibly drove at 11/10ths to see what the car could do and also see where it struggled.
Think I said earlier qualifying lap times were the best of up to 30 laps and any "offs" didn't have an impact.
During the race I tend to drive at about 9/10ths to avoid "offs" as that is at least 2sec lost time or 1/3 of a lap.
Best of luck in the next race.
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