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Round Six .... The Muntering Aka The Anaconda

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I have a box of cars on hand.

 

My usual approach which will be applied here is a shake down run with times recorded and then six minutes of glory for each car with best time and number of laps plus segments recorded.

 

This may take a few days as I am deep into casting some Monaro shells at the mo.

 

More when there is more.

 

TIA


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Good luck with this round Munter.


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shake down run completed....as some of you may know my track offers some different challenges...mainly two corners with changing camber where a shallow guide causes issues ie deslots= wasted time.

 

In no particular order...

 

#

Car

Comment

time

 

SGS= shallow guide syndrome

BIC=bouncy in corners, tire issues

 

 

69

Metro

Smooth, grippy, tippy

7.055

 

17

Lancia

Very drivable, good balance

6.358

 

19

Metro

Smooth, grippy but has SGS

6.615

 

54

Lancia

Fast but has random deslot tendencies

6.516

 

88

Ford

Fast n smooth

6.141

 

20

Ford

Front tips

7.060

 

5

Ford

Smooth and stable

6.787

 

6

Lancia

Smooth and stable

6.621

 

4

Ford

Lovin it

6.170

 

3

Lancia

BIC

6.703

 

7

Lancia

Lottsa fun

6.369

 

1

Ford

BIC but holds on, a touch of SGS too

6.656

 

46

Audi

Smooth and stable

6.539

 

2

Ford

planted

6.349

 

62

Audi

BIC but great guide

6.938

 

27

Ford

easy

6.193

 

13

Audi

BIC

6.739

 

11

Ford

BIC

6.428

 

74

Ford

Smooth, body rocks/tilts

6.522

 

8

Metro

Drives heavy

6.434

 

I did write this up in a word table but....


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Great start there Munter. You will enjoy driving these cars but remember they are pretty standard Scaly with only rear handout tyres and weight added as you are probably aware. Nothing else is allowed except for slight body/chassis easing and removal of the lights if you wish.. Scaly guides are fairly shallow but usually OK on a wood track if no other car problems.

 

I note you say my car drives heavy. Do not think my car is the heaviest but it is certainly getting up there. Mainly to minimise tipping - a particular Metro problem.

 

As with any rally a car build is a bit of a compromise to get consistent performance over a variety of conditions. Going on last year and so far this year the Metro is probably the hardest to get the best out of. The Ford RS200 and the Lancia being the easiest and the Ford RS 200 being a real flyer on some tracks probably including yours. Time will tell.

 

Sure we will all look forward to a great competition as qualifying and the various stages are completed. Have fun.

 

Just a suggestion but if you had saved your WORD table as a PDF it would probably have been OK.

 

Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx)

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straight outa the mud bath

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Thank for the tip Charles. I will have to remember that one.


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Like the car nice livery and just the right amount of dirt , did think last year the Lancia had the edge on the Ford especially in the early races , but this year seems to be the other way round , have driven a Lancia on a small track and i did find the car didn't like contact at the rear with objects like walls and scenery , the ford was a lot better as regards that suppose it is the shape more compact all round , on the tyre front the MJK's sometimes give to much bite out of tight corners when you power on and the Ford can be a bit tippy because of that , can be aleviated a bit by extra chamfering of the edges of the tyres, one thing i have noticed last year as well as this is the differance in the motor performance , for a dead standard 18k motor they all should be of roughly the same performance as all on the same gearing the only differance is in prep , the tyres by now would all be in a similar condition as regards texture on the track so that should not be a contibuting factor unless people are using very worn tyres at the start of the series .

The straight line speed and overall lap times of the current top 3 is noticably differant to the pack i have 4 scalextric motors i have run in a test car just to see if there is a differance in them and there is not, so i am somewhat perplexed where the extra performance comes from , possibly weight there is a point especially with the Ford where it is to heavy and feels sluggish , and there is also a point where not enough weight can cause the car to roll seems to be a very fine line , guessing it's the same with the others especially the Metro.

I had at one time stopped development work on these cars like differant weight, distribution, balance trying differant guides e.t.c but it has been intriging me so started again with my spare car earlier this year, not sure if this rally will continue next year hope it does as it is currently the only proxy rally around.

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The Lancia is bigger and higher in the rear so any contact with the wing or hind quarters must unsettle the car. The Ford is smaller and lower so can sneak by an obstacle however the top cars are the top cars.


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Now I'm intrigued John,

 

what kind of higher obstacles are on you to track?

so far we've only see teaser pictures, are there any of the whole track?

 

Simon


Whats not to like...........

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Hi Simon...no obstacles on my track I was referring to Phil K's comment somewhere about cars hitting the scenery.

 

My track is an awkward thing to take a picture of but...

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Wow great track, now I see why it has the subtitle Anaconda. It does put me to mind of the 1960s Airfix Mini MonteCarlo set

 

No overhanging scenery for the Lancias to hit there!

 

Simon


Whats not to like...........

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Great test track.. or club track for someone with no friends
.....sniff sniff....will you be my friend axman?

 

No overhanging scenery for the Lancias to hit there!
...correct but a car can and does sometimes reach for the floor.

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Be great to see a video of one of the cars doing a lap :P


I can't believe that I wanted to grow up

 

Mount Salt Panorama Track Combined Road and Rally Track built near Salt Pan Creek Padstow - Sydney

 

A quick build rally track

 

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Stage One....15 laps time trial.....something for you guys to think about.....stage two and three to come. Some cars were great at the start but others were just finding their groove when the laps ran out.

 

Place # Car Time

  1. 17 Lancia 98.800
  2. 6 Lancia 99.188
  3. 46 Audi 99.375
  4. 4 Ford 100.512
  5. 74 Ford 101.730
  6. 27 Ford 102.005
  7. 13 Audi 102.093
  8. 88 Ford 102.498
  9. 7 Lancia 102.697
  10. 33 Lancia 102.990
  11. 1 Ford 103.331
  12. 11 Ford 103.324
  13. 8 Metro 103.992
  14. 62 Audi 104.414
  15. 5 Ford 104.556
  16. 19 Metro 104.942
  17. 54 Lancia 105.429
  18. 2 Ford 107.688
  19. 20 Ford 108.920
  20. 69 Metro 114.059

This was the pick of the bunch for me

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Cheers John,

 

middle of the pack for me , but at least I'm 1 step in front of Martyn

 

Simon


Whats not to like...........

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Great start there John/Munter. Interesting to see the Lancias at the front again and well done the Audis in 3rd and 7th.

 

I thought this might have been another Ford RS200 benefit but clearly not.

 

Look forward to rest of stages.

 

Regards Chas Le Breton (charlesx)

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I thought this might have been another Ford RS200 benefit but clearly not.
most of the Fords were a bit tentative this afternoon...temperature was a pleasant 15 degrees celcius in the cave.

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Well.. okay.. I'll be your friend Munter. :D Your test track is a great. it's got it all.. small and large radius turns, a decent straight and takes up little space. Most of us lack any way of sorting a car before trekking long distances only to find our chassis tune / motor / gearing is all wrong. Well done.. friend.

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OK friends, family and countrymen...and others.

 

After following Leo's advice I have completed stage two of 25 laps. Stage three will be forty laps.

 

Results are as follows in first to last place.

#.... Car.......... best lap.............. over all time

88...Ford.........6.152.......................157.395

27...Ford..........6.217......................158.971

4....Ford..........6.169........................160.998

17...Lancia.....6.405..........................164.133

46...Audi.........6.504.........................165.586

11...Ford.........6.433.......................165.903

13...Audi.........6.580........................167.133

7....Lancia.......6.487........................167.332

19...Metro.......6.510........................167.853

2...Ford..........6.592..........................169.114

6...Lancia.......6.475........................169.289

62...Lancia....6.703..........................170.724

74...Ford.......6.545...........................171.059

54...Lancia.....6.487.........................172.067

8...Metro........6.510..........................173.040

5....Ford.........6.604...........................175.599

20...Ford........6.650...........................175.705

69...Metro.......6.786..........................180.569

1...Ford...........6.768..........................181.996

33..Lancia.......6.785...........................183.978

 

No cars struggled for grip, some were smooth and some were jumpy.

 

The drive of the day was....probably partly because of what came before it but these Fords with their nose down and a bit of weight....

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