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This years event has been a bit drawn out hopefully next year we can improve,by me starting earlier.

I know there has been some discusion about allowing printed chassis.

 

I would like to know any opinions about allowing printer chassis in the WRC class BUT only for SCX cars. Ninco are now becoming harder to get and since the WPR has changed to Scalex there siould be plenty of SCX WRC cars not being used.

 

IF the chassis are allowed they would still be NON PODDED to fit in with the current format.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

 

As for Historic cars there are still plenty of options available for these. Only change that has has been asked about is a change of years so the Ninco Sierra would be eligible.


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Hi Phil,

 

As mentioned previously, I personally have no issues with allowing 3d Chassis, but I believe that there should be the following caveats...

1. Chassis must be meant for that body, i.e. any body detailing on the original chassis must be present on the replacement chassis.

2. It should remain un-podded.

3. Motor orientation should not change.

 

 

As for the eliable years for historic, would it be acceptable to be any pre WRC cars?

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3d printed yes

Printed for dedicated car yes

Print from shapeway and kilslot only yes

Same motor config as stock yes

No pod for wrx yes

Sierra and bmw e30 authorised in classic (ninco and scalex welcome)

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3d printed yes

Only SCX WRC no pod yes

Only Team Slot and SCX historics 3d printed no pod inline yes

Printed for dedicated car yes

Print from shapeway and kilslot only no,there other makers too producing non podded chassis please check here

http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=133634

 

 

Sierra and bmw e30 authorised in classic (ninco and scalex welcome)


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Did enter a SCX car this year in WRC in basic form but with a MSC motor 22k a bit overpowered but just wanted to see how one went and have two ready to run in 2 wd form would they be allowed , also can we run the Scaleauto new cars with the option inline mount glued in to them have tried that and gives another option, have run both the Subaru and RS one in each OZ class and they seem good cars.

I have tried now 7 times to get answer from the Kilslot people about buying couple of chassis by E mail,, via Slotforum and not one reply have i received so not sure about this chassis at all as to the availability for us all do think if you are going down the 3d route should only be one make.

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Hi Phil.

 

I have no problem with 3D as long as other options/cars are given the same flexibility. Seems to me while 3D may be limited to a commercial chassis developed specifically for a particular car any number of iterations can be trialled as opposed to accepting the limitations of say a Scalextric Ford RS200.

 

I assume however a self-produced 3D chassis is still not allowed.

 

Regards Charles Le Beton

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Footnote strange have got a reply from Kilslot just now after trying again so will be able to test a couple of these chassis at last to see what all the fuss is about . :)

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I think allowing the Sierra in is a good move. Can I suggest allowing cars from the first year of Group A in the Historics class? A Lancia Delta Integrale wouldn't look out of place. And a Beemer M3 would look pretty good also.

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I will review the Historic cars and produce a list of Eligible cars. I think I still have the original list from some years ago when we car only historic cars. I will certainly not allow Stigs Megane as it was last time!!!!

 

Only commercially available Printed chassis will be considered any thing else is Scratchbuilt.

I just thought I would allow people to use their old SCX cars.

If this goes ahead it can be reviewed next year.

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How about extending a commercially available 3D printed chassis for resin bodies? I know they may be heavier but would open up the option of builds some.


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Do think we should concentrate on the suggestion about SCX cars first before overloading Phil with so much he walks away from it all, as with all these sorts of discussions' we seem to be in the realms now of an open anything goes proxy racing the thing about the OZ it's pretty simple , let's keep it that way.

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Does anyone know how these 3D chassis compare to RTR in terms of speed? Are they going to dominate over the Ninco's, Avants etc. As long as they are a level playing field i'm fine with them. I probably wont use one but it would be good to spice things up a little.

 

After reading reading Slo's comments about resin I was against it straight away as I really like the simplistic approach of this series, however, after I thought about the fact that you wouldn't be forced towards resin I was thinking that it might not be so bad after all. But maybe one step at a time and stick to the printed chassis.


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Do think we should concentrate on the suggestion about SCX cars first before overloading Phil with so much he walks away from it all, as with all these sorts of discussions' we seem to be in the realms now of an open anything goes proxy racing the thing about the OZ it's pretty simple , let's keep it that way.

then SCX modern WRC on inline non pod 3 d printed please............. pretty please.

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Does anyone know how these 3D chassis compare to RTR in terms of speed? Are they going to dominate over the Ninco's, Avants etc.

I have fitted these cars with Kilslot chassis.

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I have also fitted a Team Slot Alfa GTA with a Redslot chassis (same style as Kilslot)

They cannot beat Nincos and Avants at the clubs tracks but they come close and most of all they are pleasure to drive unlike their original status

 

PS i forgot i have also fitted Kilslot chassis to a Skoda Octavia and a BMW all SCX

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Have been trying to order a couple of these from the source i was directed to and have just had my accepted order refused as they are out of stock , but was not informed of this until my money had been paid, however i have managed to purchase a 3d chassis for one of my SCX C4's at the grand sum of £20-50 English including taxes and postage which is i think a bit expensive but this looks like the costs i will have to pay on top of the cost of the existing car and tyres, being on a fixed income it now looks like i am being priced out of being able to patriciate and support your proxies if we go down this road so once again it looks like i will be retiring from slot car racing due to escalating costs. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: yes i, m really P off

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Thanks for the pics, at this time WRC is the class being discussed as a possible chassis option, so the Skoda would fit if this goes ahead.

I had no idea that the cost of these chassis was so much, that makes an expensive car.

I need more research and would like to know where people are buying these chassis,I have deal with Shapeways do know there pricing and on costs.

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Hi Phil and all.

 

I am not sure what all the noise is about. I thought the SCX cars and many others were fine as they are. Nothing that a little weight or fine tuning will not fix. Instead of spending megabucks why not just experiment with the basic. I know you have heard this before but when SR and self decided to use the originally maligned Scaly Ford RS200's we expected to race for last but they and other similar cars have now morphed into the hotly contested new format WRP Rally.

 

If cost is becoming an issue why not banish ali wheels for new cars unless they are original equipment (if such cars are allowed). There appear to have been few instances of wheel trouble with SCX over the years or the Scaly Group B cars to date. Sure there is the odd car that comes out with wobbly wheel(s) but many are fine as they are. My RAID truck still has the original plastic wheels. Several of the manufacturers sell very cheap replacement plastic wheels if required.

 

Thought a different tack was worth a look at. To spend nearly a much as the original car on a replacement chassis seems ridiculous. Just buy a more appropriate car to start with.

 

Regards Chas Le Breton (charlesx)

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