kalbfellp Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 This years event has been a bit drawn out hopefully next year we can improve,by me starting earlier. I know there has been some discusion about allowing printed chassis. I would like to know any opinions about allowing printer chassis in the WRC class BUT only for SCX cars. Ninco are now becoming harder to get and since the WPR has changed to Scalex there siould be plenty of SCX WRC cars not being used. IF the chassis are allowed they would still be NON PODDED to fit in with the current format. Your thoughts would be appreciated. As for Historic cars there are still plenty of options available for these. Only change that has has been asked about is a change of years so the Ninco Sierra would be eligible. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi Phil, As mentioned previously, I personally have no issues with allowing 3d Chassis, but I believe that there should be the following caveats... 1. Chassis must be meant for that body, i.e. any body detailing on the original chassis must be present on the replacement chassis. 2. It should remain un-podded. 3. Motor orientation should not change. As for the eliable years for historic, would it be acceptable to be any pre WRC cars? Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Good points, I do not want to make the Ninco's redundant just provide an option. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curef99 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 3d printed yes Printed for dedicated car yes Print from shapeway and kilslot only yes Same motor config as stock yes No pod for wrx yes Sierra and bmw e30 authorised in classic (ninco and scalex welcome) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis in greece Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 3d printed yes Only SCX WRC no pod yes Only Team Slot and SCX historics 3d printed no pod inline yes Printed for dedicated car yes Print from shapeway and kilslot only no,there other makers too producing non podded chassis please check here http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=133634 Sierra and bmw e30 authorised in classic (ninco and scalex welcome) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Did enter a SCX car this year in WRC in basic form but with a MSC motor 22k a bit overpowered but just wanted to see how one went and have two ready to run in 2 wd form would they be allowed , also can we run the Scaleauto new cars with the option inline mount glued in to them have tried that and gives another option, have run both the Subaru and RS one in each OZ class and they seem good cars. I have tried now 7 times to get answer from the Kilslot people about buying couple of chassis by E mail,, via Slotforum and not one reply have i received so not sure about this chassis at all as to the availability for us all do think if you are going down the 3d route should only be one make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesx Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi Phil. I have no problem with 3D as long as other options/cars are given the same flexibility. Seems to me while 3D may be limited to a commercial chassis developed specifically for a particular car any number of iterations can be trialled as opposed to accepting the limitations of say a Scalextric Ford RS200. I assume however a self-produced 3D chassis is still not allowed. Regards Charles Le Beton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Footnote strange have got a reply from Kilslot just now after trying again so will be able to test a couple of these chassis at last to see what all the fuss is about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis in greece Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 You can buy Kilslot chassis from Aloyshop Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss302 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I think allowing the Sierra in is a good move. Can I suggest allowing cars from the first year of Group A in the Historics class? A Lancia Delta Integrale wouldn't look out of place. And a Beemer M3 would look pretty good also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) I will review the Historic cars and produce a list of Eligible cars. I think I still have the original list from some years ago when we car only historic cars. I will certainly not allow Stigs Megane as it was last time!!!! Only commercially available Printed chassis will be considered any thing else is Scratchbuilt. I just thought I would allow people to use their old SCX cars. If this goes ahead it can be reviewed next year. Edited June 20, 2017 by kalbfellp Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis in greece Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I just thought I would allow people to use their old SCX cars. And Team Slot please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slo Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 How about extending a commercially available 3D printed chassis for resin bodies? I know they may be heavier but would open up the option of builds some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS41T Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I like what your thinking slo1quick Rossko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slo Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Got no idea if/what/which chassis would fit. Just putting it out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Do think we should concentrate on the suggestion about SCX cars first before overloading Phil with so much he walks away from it all, as with all these sorts of discussions' we seem to be in the realms now of an open anything goes proxy racing the thing about the OZ it's pretty simple , let's keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_M Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Does anyone know how these 3D chassis compare to RTR in terms of speed? Are they going to dominate over the Ninco's, Avants etc. As long as they are a level playing field i'm fine with them. I probably wont use one but it would be good to spice things up a little. After reading reading Slo's comments about resin I was against it straight away as I really like the simplistic approach of this series, however, after I thought about the fact that you wouldn't be forced towards resin I was thinking that it might not be so bad after all. But maybe one step at a time and stick to the printed chassis. Quote Some slot (and MTB) vids NOW SHOWING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curef99 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Do think we should concentrate on the suggestion about SCX cars first before overloading Phil with so much he walks away from it all, as with all these sorts of discussions' we seem to be in the realms now of an open anything goes proxy racing the thing about the OZ it's pretty simple , let's keep it that way. then SCX modern WRC on inline non pod 3 d printed please............. pretty please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difinity Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I don't know about the rest but I reckon my Subaru WRX RallyX chassis might just fit under the Torana... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis in greece Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Does anyone know how these 3D chassis compare to RTR in terms of speed? Are they going to dominate over the Ninco's, Avants etc. I have fitted these cars with Kilslot chassis. I have also fitted a Team Slot Alfa GTA with a Redslot chassis (same style as Kilslot) They cannot beat Nincos and Avants at the clubs tracks but they come close and most of all they are pleasure to drive unlike their original status PS i forgot i have also fitted Kilslot chassis to a Skoda Octavia and a BMW all SCX Edited June 21, 2017 by alexis in greece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Have been trying to order a couple of these from the source i was directed to and have just had my accepted order refused as they are out of stock , but was not informed of this until my money had been paid, however i have managed to purchase a 3d chassis for one of my SCX C4's at the grand sum of £20-50 English including taxes and postage which is i think a bit expensive but this looks like the costs i will have to pay on top of the cost of the existing car and tyres, being on a fixed income it now looks like i am being priced out of being able to patriciate and support your proxies if we go down this road so once again it looks like i will be retiring from slot car racing due to escalating costs. :angry: :angry: yes i, m really P off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis in greece Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 More photos Team Slot SCX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the pics, at this time WRC is the class being discussed as a possible chassis option, so the Skoda would fit if this goes ahead. I had no idea that the cost of these chassis was so much, that makes an expensive car. I need more research and would like to know where people are buying these chassis,I have deal with Shapeways do know there pricing and on costs. Edited June 21, 2017 by kalbfellp Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesx Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Hi Phil and all. I am not sure what all the noise is about. I thought the SCX cars and many others were fine as they are. Nothing that a little weight or fine tuning will not fix. Instead of spending megabucks why not just experiment with the basic. I know you have heard this before but when SR and self decided to use the originally maligned Scaly Ford RS200's we expected to race for last but they and other similar cars have now morphed into the hotly contested new format WRP Rally. If cost is becoming an issue why not banish ali wheels for new cars unless they are original equipment (if such cars are allowed). There appear to have been few instances of wheel trouble with SCX over the years or the Scaly Group B cars to date. Sure there is the odd car that comes out with wobbly wheel(s) but many are fine as they are. My RAID truck still has the original plastic wheels. Several of the manufacturers sell very cheap replacement plastic wheels if required. Thought a different tack was worth a look at. To spend nearly a much as the original car on a replacement chassis seems ridiculous. Just buy a more appropriate car to start with. Regards Chas Le Breton (charlesx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Part of the problem with the WRC class is the lack of new cars on the Market. I just thought the 3d chassis may be a option,I agree I think the SCX car with a long can may still be a good option,still working on mine! Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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