manimmal Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Hi all. So my favorite Parma economy 25/45 with brake pot ran out of smoke, again, and honestly i think she's spent. I'd be happy with an old school resistor throttle again however apparently i'm a dinasaur. I've tried electronic throttles before and whilst i'm not a huge fan regarding feeling or lack thereof, it seems this is where i need to be looking. At this point i start asking questions; If i want to spend under $200 on an electronic throttle (preferably well under!) with adjustable brakes what throttles might i consider, how much might i be spending and from where might i be ordering? Information, opinions welcomed. Thanks, Chris Quote My mum says I'm an excellent driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddo Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 For non-mag, timber tracks the Slot It controller is hard to go past in the <$200 category IMO. Variable brakes, throttle sensitivity, traction control, along with the ability to reduce the voltage supplied to your lane for over powered motors is brilliant. I've had a $350 DiFalco, and have gone back to the $180 Slot.It controller, it gives more adjustment across a wider range of motors/classes.. Caveat - our home tracks are 1/32 scale - 3 & 4 lanes, short straights and plenty of corners. For larger tracks & 1/24 scale, others might have differing views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 The Slot It is the best value But a few of our guys just could not come to grips with all the adjustments or did not like the lack of feel in the trigger,so they have reverted to the PM 2110, it has adjustable brakes and sensitivity. Best to see if you can get a test run with both on a club night and see what you prefer. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 But a few of our guys just could not come to grips with all the adjustments or did not like the lack of feel in the trigger,so they have reverted to the PM 2110, it has adjustable brakes and sensitivity. I hated the Slotit controller...a big bag of knobs that did bugger all.....but recommend the PM 2110...mine has been going strong for six or seven years now. Get the correct polarity and voltage range though. Mine is + and 10-15 volts. Quote John Warren Slotcars are my preferred reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermouse Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 the PM controllers were all the go when I started racing with my group - we have a wider range of controllers are being used now - a few chaps have an ACDPro ($300 + but have seen 2nd hand ones for around $200) and a couple have TruSpeed controllers which come from the UK and are around the $180-200 mark. They seem to go ok - I was planning on getting one until I picked up an ACDPro for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Carter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I also did not like the slot-it controller I now use a old PM with no brake/attack adjustment and I do a lot better with it do need to get a better controller to keep up with the others Quote Holdens rule the rest just drool slot cars are my drug, ATCC/Bathurst proxy host NZ Grp5 proxy host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miveson Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I find it hard to go past the slot.it controller - yes it has plenty of adjustable features, however with the investment of time you can easily master them. Agree with the test drive concept for something so vital Quote Slot Car Photos V8 Tipping Competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espsix Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Hey buds, if you want to try all the different controllers, come down to Dandenong on a Friday night, I've got most of them, try them out. The SlotIt is ok, but the lack of feel still puts me off. The difalco is a great controller, and you can get one for a good price at slotraceshop.nz, I'd go for the Neo 301, different resistor modules can be fitted for any kind of car you'd ever want to race, I make my own. PM controllers have a crapy shaped trigger, that's all I'll say about them. Once you master one electronic controller, they're all the same. Edited June 7, 2016 by espsix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGas Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I can second the true speed. I have had both the slot.it and the truspeed. There wasn't much wrong with the slot.it, great to tinker with all the knobs, but it is very bulky and felt heavy. The truspeed is lighter and smaller and you can get a transistor or diode version. they are about $150 landed depending on current exchange rate. Both slot.it and truspeed come with single or double finger trigger. I have used the PM 2110 a couple of times and really liked it. The 2110 is positive polarity while the 2112 is negative, otherwise same controller. Again they are a little large and it would pay to plait the cables other than that they are good. There is another one I have not sure of the brand though, it is old but works well. Paul Stevens used it to win quite a few races in the 2012 APC champs, hope he doesn't mind the name dropping. If interested PM me. Hope the other advice helps. Edited June 7, 2016 by ZeGas Quote Cheers Grant . Home Track..........Corvette C1 Build..........McLaren M1A Build..........Maserati 300S Build..........Allard J2 Build..........50's Diner..........Iso Griffo A3C 3D Printed Adjustable Chassis..........3D Print Projects If life gives you lemons, take them, free s#!t is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) As the Slot.it is a PWM controller, it can be a little 'violent' for some people. A stiffer spring is required in it for most people to be happy though. The Professor Motor controllers are transistor based, and as such, feel a lot more like the Parma in terms of power delivery. However, the case / trigger shapes don't agree with my hand. I have multiple of both are they are equally great controllers. Yes the slot.it can do more, but, more people feel comfortable with the 'familiar' feel that the PM gives. Oh, and the difference between the 10-15v, and the 12-18v controllers is just a slightly higher value resistor in the sensitivity circuit. If you have the adjustable controller anyway, you are possibly better off getting the 12-18v one as you can adjust it up to the 10-15v 'level' anyway. [Edit] I have the slot.it's that have been offloaded / upgraded / repaired from 3 other posters in this thread... lol. Edited June 7, 2016 by shadow_rusty Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miveson Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Rusty - the controller in the wrong hands can be deadly - laugh.... Quote Slot Car Photos V8 Tipping Competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Aint that the truth... Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imugford Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) http://www.pendleslo...controller.html I bought one of these, its light, the trigger is adjustable. only issue is the instructions aren't real clear on what the knobs do (besides the brake). Edited June 8, 2016 by imugford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The PM trigger is much better when it is reshape do, I tend to round off most of my triggers for more comfort. You are better to select a controller to suit the voltage you race on, as buying a 12 to 18 and trying to use it on lower voltage does not give the same sensitivity range, talk to Espsix about this! Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Carter Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I have had a go with a MBslot controller and was impressed with it all the controls are on a box that is down the cords a bit so you are only holding the handle with the trigger only which has its pluses and minuses plus -very lite and smooth minus- the controls aren't on the handle so a little more difficult to make adjustments while racing but would be something you would get used to after a while Quote Holdens rule the rest just drool slot cars are my drug, ATCC/Bathurst proxy host NZ Grp5 proxy host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.A Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I have used a Professor Motor controller for a couple of years now from 16D's to the various Plafit,Scaleauto,BRM,etc motors and have found the trigger to be comfortable and the controller very reliable and I like the fine tuning of the sensitivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munter Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I have had a go with a MBslot controller and was impressed with it me too, too. Quote John Warren Slotcars are my preferred reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthetexan Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I like to keep it simple. I've tried a few different controllers and in the end they all perform well. Recently I have moved away from 1/24 and started enjoying 1/32 plastics again, pulled out my trusty 25 and 45 ohm parma ecconomy controllers and off I went. I'd stick with the ecconomy controllers and save some money , they do the job just fine. I think you've been on the right track all along........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'd recommend a Slot.It controller if I knew what all the knobs and buttons are for. I just use the trigger and the brakes knob on mine and it works fine. The cars go and they stop. Truth be known, I use it pretty much like a handle with an off/on switch and some wires connected to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'd recommend a Slot.It controller if I knew what all the knobs and buttons are for. I just use the trigger and the brakes knob on mine and it works fine. The cars go and they stop. Truth be known, I use it pretty much like a handle with an off/on switch and some wires connected to it. Turn up the green knob and it's a on off switch with a 'soft start' feature... Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 a 'soft start' feature... wifes got one of those ...... (on her washing machine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS41T Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I like playing with my 3rd eye______ controller Rossko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manimmal Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 ^^I was wondering where that one was going... My feelings from previous experience are essentially confirmed by your replys, thank-you. When I was a club racing regular the slot.it was disliked by many, and loved by some, which i expect not only to do with lack of feel but with the complexity of the beast also. I prefer simplicity so the PMTR 2110 will be the go i think, as although i did prefer the feel of the difalco when i tried Doug's, the wife and i have a joint bank account :( I may end up getting a slot.it $139 scp201ai job from Armchair Racer, but only if my hunt for a 2110 is too painful financially. Can anyone point me to a store that has a 2110 available? I see the pm website has them for $130us however the $66 p&h seems a tad excessive. Thanks again guys, Chris Quote My mum says I'm an excellent driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.A Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hi Chris,checkout Slotraceshop's website as they have Professor Motor controllers and are on special at the moment and postage is cheap too.I purchased mine from there and there service is good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I've had a Difalco for about 5 years now and have found a rather peculiar by product of using the Difalco, that is I get calluses from using the controller! The inside of my thumb has developed a rather hard bit of skin and for all the world is similar to calluses I got when on the tools back in my building trade days.( I'd often have to use a golf glove when racing) leaving myself wide open to smart a***d comments from club mates. Now I have a SlotIt controller its so nice to use, at first a little vague, but now I'm used to it, its so comfortable in the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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