charlesx Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I have no wish to add to cost but you need to be realistic. The great variety of motors in OZ Rally does not seem to detract and no one motor dominate. I only supported ali wheels as with my Corolla I had to true them up and accept compromise. Another relatively low cost option where hard to correct wobbles would be Slot- plastic wheels but they could have same trouble as ali axle wise. Just considering the options. Regards Chas Le Breton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Noted Charlesx about OZ rally that is an open motor formula, I believe the SCX has always been a one motor series, I would think basically for a level playing field and I know by what has been said before a series to keep the costs down, have mentioned the additional costs of alloy wheels , some have mentioned replacing axles contrates that also adds to the costs approx. £25 plus I have just costed it, if people want to go down this road fair enough but as you said there is already the OZ rally for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_M Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) The original SCX rally which was for historic classes ran by a different organiser had the option of motor choice for the class 3 cars (Group B ). Edited June 14, 2014 by Ben_M Quote Some slot (and MTB) vids NOW SHOWING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miveson Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I like the idea of 2 classes (far easier to run for hosts) and it worked a treat for other proxies. Class 1 - Same SCX cars with a new more easily acquired motor Class 2 - Rally cars with Aluminium wheels and open motor Then you can let the entrants vote with their feet on what class they want to enter in. Just a thought Quote Slot Car Photos V8 Tipping Competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesx Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hi Miveson and all. Class 1 as long as existing cars/motors still OK. Class 2 - seems same as OZ. Is one gong to be at expense of other??? Chas Le Breton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny broke Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Basically keep it the same as now but allow the more readily available SCX motors. If there is a concern about the difference in motor performance offer separate points for the two motor groups. Personally I'd like to upgrade the wheels gears and axles but I understand that the organisers may prefer the original equipment. Alan Quote home track club racer Spitfire Raceway forum link https://www.facebook.com/groups/1753319218331240/?ref=bookmarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtucker666 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 We already have multiple performances from motors, and the quickest motor does not usually correspond to the fastest times on tight twisty rally tracks. In this years wrp Penelope pitstops motor is in a class of it's own, but just cause you get to the corners quicker does not mean you get round the corners quicker and corners is where stages are won or lost. Matt Quote Rockingham Slot Car Club - Premier Racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 It is almost impossible to buy any SCX 4wd motors. So opening up the motor rule will only make it harder for some entrants. Ithought d the open slot motor may be an option But even the cars are getting harder to find. The only cheap option Ican think off is to change to 2wd, use the Slot It adapter and use a spec S can motor like the 16,000 wD MRRC/ SRP motor.This should be easy for most people cost effective. This would be the cheapest option using the existing cars. It's a shame that there is no current 4 WD motor available that would suit. This event is unique in only allowing 4WD SCX cars with very limited modifications. Oz Rally caters for the people wanting to do more building and modifications. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 It is getting hard to source motors , there are cars available from Slots and Trains they have Citroen C4, Citroen DS3, Fiesta listed but I think these are all powered with 91 motor, Pendals have a10113 Fiesta, A10117 Citroen C4 , A10120 Citroen DS3, A10092 Fiesta, A10029 Fiesta, A10158 Citroen DS3, this one due for release about now and as far as I can find out these are all powered by the 91 motor which I assume is the motor they are using now in replacement for the 81 B , I have mounted a 91 in a 81 cradle but have had to make up a bracket as it is smaller in size , think Kalbfellp 's idea is worth considering as I tend to agree with him about motors even the 91 does not seem to be available anywhere on it's own . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curef99 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 looking at all the dicsussion, are we all in agreement that next year will again be WRC? if we get this sorted we can move on to the next question:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 The question is still out there, who's up for giving the current class another run Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Yup. Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_M Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 My preference is still for some sort of change, even if it is minimal. The only reason is just to spice it up a little, I don't have any issues with the current class. Might have to pull the mighty Mitsu out of retirement if it stays the same. Quote Some slot (and MTB) vids NOW SHOWING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gunn Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Another yup from me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knealer Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I am happy to go again just picked up a nearly new focus for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Definitely up for another run to these rules... Just picked up a few SCX's with 81's in them, and some go very well... Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted November 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 At this stage we are looking at running the same again for one last year, with the addition of allowing the guide to be changed to a Ninco or similar setup We believe that this change will help eliminate the pickup problem that has effected most of the field resulting in bad power connection and loss power and reliability Again this is not a mandatory field, it will be available as an option. Same motor and running gear, same wheels shod with MJK supplied control tyres, just a better power pickup and a more stable front end. Opinions ...... Quote Quickly read this post before it is deleted or i turn grey again Gary http://www.facebook.com/Rallyproxy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) That definitely is an interesting option... Would allow the older non self centering guides a chance too... Only question, would it be any ninco guide? If so, the pro sprung guides should easily out perform the standard SCX ones... Edited November 23, 2014 by shadow_rusty Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curef99 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Which ninco? I am starting a car tonight:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Allowing guide change means a disadvantage to anyone who doesn't do it. Also means they are no longer SCX cars. Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontheflipside Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 The other option Embs is to include a new braided guide with the entry car. In my round and I know practice laps at Gazza's we took over half a day to try and rectify the chook legs, worn out braids and stiff guides. I would say over half the field were disadvantaged with this problem. We put new guides and 3 sec lap improvements on my track. Matt T's car had to be fixed twice on my track. Probably some guides have been used for several years What are the options?? BTW nothing is set in concrete at this stage so I suggest no one do any mods on their proposed entry car yet! Quote I can't believe that I wanted to grow up Mount Salt Panorama Track Combined Road and Rally Track built near Salt Pan Creek Padstow - Sydney A quick build rally track 2017 WRP Round 11 at Mt Salt Panorama https://i128.photobu...zpss7sqiwfj.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I can live with the spare guide idea. There are even soldering options. New braid is no issue either. But a Ninco guide is such an advantage over an SCX one. I know. I'm likely to be the only one against the idea. But... It goes against the grain for me. Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curef99 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 For me the guide has to be changed but the speed delta is Also a problem .... during one round someone did a check. Can we start speaking about ths speed issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Gazza, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't one of the RX81 powered WRP cars set a record time on your track last year? I don't see why people think speed is an issue. Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haystack Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 At this stage we are looking at running the same again for one last year, with the addition of allowing the guide to be changed to a Ninco or similar setup We believe that this change will help eliminate the pickup problem that has effected most of the field resulting in bad power connection and loss power and reliability Again this is not a mandatory field, it will be available as an option. Same motor and running gear, same wheels shod with MJK supplied control tyres, just a better power pickup and a more stable front end. Opinions ...... I would support that idea; my 2013 Subi suffered badly from just this. Quote Chris H.M.C.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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