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#41 ZeGas

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

Yeah Digby I see where your coming from but the banked curve is at the top of the esses so is in effect the start of the "straight" not the end.
So I'm hoping that the cars will be accelerating through this section before reaching top speed, the other end of the straight, the one to the left is where all the de-slotting will happen, this should be more accessible.
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:11 PM

Well I'm off again, designing that is.
Told you all it'd be a while before I started building and I'm glad I waited.
Dementia set in with the plastic track and the kids like making different tracks out of it so there is no way I'm going to be able to set up a permanent track with that.
Anyway I'm back to sanity and going back to routing.
Three lane 1:24 track 100mm lanes with 50mm inside except on hairpins (75mm) and 120mm on outside (thinking of 150mm maybe).
Total length each lane is 19m.
Going for KISS principle on this one, a few sweepers and a couple of tighties.
Still going to try big elevation difference around hairpin but will play with that when the time comes.
To fit in 6x3 shed, 600mm clearance for marshalling and the big sweeper end is at teh big door end of the shed so can open for easier marshalling if required.
Furthest reach is 1m so rainy day marshalling is still OK if they don't have a big fat head.
Box ends are each 600x600 drivers stations.
Start/Finish - I am thinking the short straight at the top before the long sweeper with direction running left (from left to right on the bridge section).
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:49 PM

What's the footprint? 19m lap length? Makes me a little unsatisfied with the 17.6m laps that come out of the track that I've been working on through a gazillion permutations.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 08:35 AM

5.1 x 2.9
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:33 AM

View PostZeGas, on 29 July 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

Dementia set in with the plastic track and the kids like making different tracks out of it so there is no way I'm going to be able to set up a permanent track with that.
Ahhh... Plastic track doing what it does best...
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:35 PM

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Hi Zegas .... Finally found this thread.

Looks great ... and glad you scrapped earlier and went with this. This is pure race track. . I'm guessing the direction-of-travel is around the 3 metre curved sweeper and up onto the bridge.

Good idea to use the shed rather than the container. Only 2 metre width in the container.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

Hey Greg,
The original track was more for a scenic jaunt and a bit of fun, but yes this one will be for racing and testing.

After measuring the red lane at Hillcrest last night (350mm rad) and knowing how it drives I think I am a little ambitious with the hairpin, although a spiral curve it was 175mm radius at its tightest, a wood guide would get around but I think it might just be a destructive corner so have increased it to spiral with 250mm min radius.
Also the poor blue lane got all the nasty corners so smoothed out the corner at the end of the bridge and now the lanes are a bit more even.
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Now to set up a Charity to fund it.
I'm guessing you're volunteering for the electrical work, that's good of you mate. Nothing quite like being nominated huh.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

I love volunteers. I wish I could find more. :)

It's not my cup of double espresso, but I can imagine it good for head to head. Shame to see the 'not straight' disappear.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

View PostEmber, on 30 July 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:

....It's not my cup of double espresso....

Says the lady currently designing a race track herself. tut tut.
Its not dead totally I still got the banked curve there it is just on the back burner till I can be bothered building another shed. That could well be some time.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:08 PM

Yeah, I know. But I think I've got mine sussed finally.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Yeah ... I don't mind doing the electrical work if you want ... no problems, as long as I get to race on it.

But you will have to specify what race controller etc you are using and I can start getting all the wiring together.

Greg.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:21 PM

I was only kidding Greg, don't hold your breath this could be a few months down the track.
I still have to register the Charity. :D
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Posted 03 November 2014 - 09:40 PM

Don't you love circles, they're lovely clean shapes, only two sides. beautiful in there simplicity.
Well its been almost a year since I started this post, warned everyone it would be a long process.
So I've gone full circle .... almost.
Back to routed track and back to two lanes and back to twisty, interesting track.
Gone from container to 6x3 garage.
Let me introduce to you ........

THE TAPEWORM


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The pretzel in the middle may come out and be replaced with a straight, dunno yet.
Total length 25m with pretzel, 20m without.

I know, I know ... get building already. It's getting closer, I just want to be sure before I commit cause it'll most likely be a one off.
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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:38 PM

..... it is getting closer, geez I heard that before.

When was that ... !!! NOVEMBER !!! ... crikey.
Famous last words huh

Small change of plans, bigger shed on the way if bank gives OK, so bigger track on the way.
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Mockup happening tonight I think, then if it all looks good off to the CNC boys next week.

Digital routed with 3 Scaley lane changers and pit lane in/out on 6 car APB all retro fitted into routed track.
100 outside, 100 lane, min 50 inside.
Lanes narrowed to suit scaley digi bits as required.
Min radius 175 max 1100

should be good for up to mini-z

Bit of both worlds.
A speedway and then a technical section in the hills.
The four lane section will not be divided so merging traffic watch out, fun fun fun.

dashed squares = drivers station
circle = possible marshalling points.

no blind spots for any driver from marshalls and the underpass will be under a viaduct to minimise obscurity, the exit will start heading uphill immediately.

Direction is counter clockwise from drivers station.

Here is the weird bit, it is in effect a figure 8 (crosses once) but one section is inside the other and they both flow the same way so it actually doubles the difference between lanes from the usual 0.5m diff to 1.0m ish.
Don't matter it is digi so everyone will take the faster lane unless battling it out.

ooooooh i'm getting excited, promise I won't keep all hanging, if you care anyway. ya'all probably lost interest by now as it has dragged on so long.

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Lane length 25.20m & 26.47m

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:52 PM

Looks like it will be fun...

ps. if you seperate the Infrared recievers from the reciever board, you can use the lane changers on any lane spacing...
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Posted 26 June 2015 - 02:06 PM

Michael,
You of all people know my history with electronics.
Narrowing will be fine.
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Posted 26 June 2015 - 02:27 PM

As we both know that your soldering licence has been revoked, that doesn't mean that someone else couldn't do the soldering for you...
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Posted 26 June 2015 - 02:31 PM

Love the new layout. And don't worry too much. You've years to go before you catch up to Eno on track planning time.
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Posted 27 June 2015 - 09:28 AM

Very basic mockup to make sure elevations will work.

1. Driver station 1.
Two possible blind spots, neither a big deal I don't think.
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2. Driver station 3
Just the one blind spot
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Driver station 6
Could be a problem, there may be a blind spot on the first of the switchbacks.
I think it might be OK full scale with a bit of juggling of levels.
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I think I can live with this.
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Posted 28 June 2015 - 12:57 AM

Very impressive mock up.
Is there a potential risk on the bottom right hand corner?
On the inside 180, would it be possible for the blue lane to tail out onto the red on the adjacent 90 degree turn?
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