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#1 kalbfellp

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:37 AM

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The cars have arrived at Shelmore Park for Round 2 of the Tasman Cup Proxy.

All the cars had a check over and a couple of laps so I could ensure all is well,ready for the qualifying over the weekend before the main event next week.

Edited by kalbfellp, 21 April 2013 - 01:18 AM.


#2 kalbfellp

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:32 AM

I thought a few new pics of Shelmore track would be nice to remind everyone what it is like.

View from the drivers area
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Entry onto the back straight and the down hill section, that leads into the tight Station Hairpin.

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Qualifying for Round 2 of the Tasman Cup was completed yesterday.

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Old 23 car is very fast BUT very hard to drive as it has no brakes so tend to fall off at the end of the straight!
Mike Newns Fergy has some issues with tight front wheel and stiff rear axle,on the bench to see what can be done.
Biedmatts Ferrari is lacking grip so I will giv the tyres a light sand and see if that will improve the grip before race night.
Stu,s Brabham wants to tail out under brakes very easy. Most of the rest are good, Ferrari 1950,s car will be a good race car as it is easy to drive.

The PPL chassied cars are performing well and shows that a simple "Origami" chassis suits that class of car well.
A great field of car again this year,BUT lets see some more Aussie and NZ builds next year.
Race night is Tuesday.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:26 AM

G'day Phil,

Thanks for getting round 2 underway.


Old23's car really does have some speed. I agree, it is hard to keep it in the slot though.

Good luck on Race Night.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

Good looking track Phil! Pics give a good idea as to the elevation.
Good luck with the round.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:50 AM

Thanks for the update Phil - looking forward to the results some time after Tuesday......

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:44 AM

Round two was completed last night.

It is now 1.30 Am so I will just post the results and add notes later today.

Well dome Mike and Alan.

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Matts Ferrari tyres have no grip at all,Alexis is not much better.

I have tried all sorts during the afternoon before the event. Nothing seemed to improve the grip. One side seems to have less grip than the other. We ended up sanding the tyres lighty between heats just so the guys could get the car around the track.
IMO time for some other tyres.

Haystack took some great notes during the night so I will type them up ASAP and post later today.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:54 AM

Thanks for the round Phil.

Congratulations to the podium getters,I'm quite happy with my Ferraris' finish,its been a while since my F1 car has been up there and now I can start to see where the previous cars were lacking,nice to get the rounds done quickly as it keeps the interest up.

Thanks again to our organisers for getting this proxy going and for their enthusiasm,

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:43 AM

Well done Mike, Alan and Phil.
Thanks all the drivers and helpers and to Phil on a well run round.

Didnt notice that Matts or Alexis tyres were particularly bad last round. Stubbo is away for a week, I'll follow it up if we dont here from him in the next day or so.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

Thanks for a great round organisers and congrats to podiumites.

Look forward to Haystacks comments on performance of individual cars when time permits.

Interested to hear if my Cooper in particular is still prone to tipping.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:23 AM

Old 23 I think they all got caught out at some time.

Drivers last night were Callan,Rhys,Bruce and Adrian.

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Haystack recorded these drivers comments during the night.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:46 AM

Thanks Phil for all the info and for running the round.

Well done Mike on the win and to Phil for third. I am a happy chappy with second.

I also didn't think that Matts and Alexis tyres were that bad.

If they haven't already done so I will contact them and see if they want a tyre change.

Looks as though Bruce has improved his driving heaps. When we last saw him he had to use a hand controller!!!!!

I just noticed elsewhere the the tyre issue has been attended to. Thanks Phil.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostStubbo, on 25 April 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

Looks as though Bruce has improved his driving heaps. When we last saw him he had to use a hand controller!!!!!


When I see you, we need to have a chat about tasmanians using mind control in slot racing. Not only has it not been sanctioned by the ISRA, but how can we be sure they are not using it to gain some unfair advantage.... Posted Image

No idea why they won't use Stig for a lane, he would HAVE to be their best driver. Posted Image

thanks for a well run round anyway Phil Posted Image
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:43 AM

Hi Haystack and Phil.

Thanks for comments on cars. Clearly my Lotus 18/21 is a bit of a disaster so my fault for rush job to try and fill out entry. After all that we seem to have still ended up 4 short of maximum field.

Have to wonder whether it is use of Scaly chassis clipped into what is left of body after my extensive re-modelling job (instead of more usual screw mount). Sounds like it is back to the drawing board. Already have some ideas.

Not quite sure what is meant with my Cooper Climax comments "Not far off, does not flow right but good". Is this gearing perhaps - 8:24 currently. Had meant to try 8:25 bit did not get around to it. Car at home ran very smoothly. Take it traction not a problem.

Send me a personal message if you want. I can see an extensive testing programme being undertaken once cars get home. Offset gears to lower centre of gravity would seem like a good starting point.

Enjoying reading about series to date. Keep up the good work.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:52 AM

I am not sure either Charles,I was not driving,BUT gearing should be right for that motor. BUT because of the very low torque these motor require that the drive train is very free,fromwhat I can remember your actually had some brakes. Rear tyres may be a little to high. I will make more notes next week.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:11 AM

View PostSlotsNZ, on 25 April 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostStubbo, on 25 April 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

Looks as though Bruce has improved his driving heaps. When we last saw him he had to use a hand controller!!!!!


When I see you, we need to have a chat about tasmanians using mind control in slot racing. Not only has it not been sanctioned by the ISRA, but how can we be sure they are not using it to gain some unfair advantage.... Posted Image

No idea why they won't use Stig for a lane, he would HAVE to be their best driver. Posted Image

thanks for a well run round anyway Phil Posted Image

Not quite...Bruce is no Jedi Master, though he was just 'getting in the zone' during the pre-race warmup and familiarization run. :D
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

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Down on power

Are we saying that the motor could do with a bit more omph?

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:36 PM

View PostSlotsNZ, on 25 April 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostStubbo, on 25 April 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

Looks as though Bruce has improved his driving heaps. When we last saw him he had to use a hand controller!!!!!


When I see you, we need to have a chat about tasmanians using mind control in slot racing. Not only has it not been sanctioned by the ISRA, but how can we be sure they are not using it to gain some unfair advantage.... Posted Image

No idea why they won't use Stig for a lane, he would HAVE to be their best driver. Posted Image

thanks for a well run round anyway Phil Posted Image

Mark,did you realise that Marcos is a Tasmanian?

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:46 PM

Thanks for the comments Phil. By my standard gear mesh is very good unless car has sustained damage to rear end which I doubt.

I too thought it braked reasonably well. Did notice it appeared to keep winding up however even on fast track which is why I questioned gearing.

Did not try to grind down tyres too much as was not sure how much tyres would wear. As stated however car could do with offset gear which would lower COG. Think it has over 4mm ground clearance before I ground tyres.

Any further advice you can provide would be much appreciated.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

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Down on power

Are we saying that the motor could do with a bit more omph?

Uncertain, Mark. The guys thought it was tractable out of the corners, but lacked that something to run with the big dogs. Motor... or gearing....? May work for you on a tighter/shorter track?!?
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

Thanks Chris - I'll see what happens in the coming rounds - not much I can do about it now :)





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