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#41 charlesx

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

Hi Alan. Ta for the heads-up.

Asked about roll bar as rules say roll bar required. As I said I have plenty of photos if required to show no roll cage apparent for model I chose. I can however easily add if you require.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

Hi Stubbo/Alan.

There are plenty of photos on net plus I have some of actual Bruce McLaren car all with probably internal roll bar. Here are a couple from net.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

Charles I would suspect that the restored cars in the pic are from 1960, as from the start of 1961 the Gas caps were covered over,at least in F1.I would look for period pics,I have been caught with restored cars not been correct so always check period pics.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

Hi Phil and Alan.

I used those photos as car the same as Scalextric and Munter's resin model. Note Scalextric car is not fitted with visible roll bar. Both however have side filler caps.

Are you saying my car is inelligible. If this is the case at least one was the same last year. I could fill in and paint over filler caps if you insist but would prefer to leave as is.

I also used photos as they appeared to be a better representation of original. Many have really horrible roll bars that are not in keeping with real thing but may have been required by modern rules so they could be raced.

I will post some more photos when I get time.

I have done my best to stick within the rules for the event so I am sure we can work through this.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:24 AM

Charles nothing about eligibility just the pics you posted are of restored cars and often the restored cars do not always represent cars ascthey raced during that period.
The F1 rules changed for 1961 and the Coopers fitted smaller motors and covered up the filler caps. Not sure about the Tasman rules.
This event is open to F1 cars from 61 to 65 and Tasman cars from 64 and 65 so you should be using pics from that period to present your case. I can't see a problem as from what I can see the cars with higher rear panels do not appear to have roll bars, but I could be wrong.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

Charles , no one has suggested your car is ineligible. The photo's you have used are from cars being used today and they may be slightly different to the original probably because of todays safety requirements or possibly for another reason that I am not aware of. I have done a quick search on Cooper T53 1962 and found some original photo's of cars with and without roll bars. You can put one in if you want however the car is eligible either way.

In the last couple of days several more entry fees have been received. Posted Image

I am out of town for a few days and will update the list early next week.Posted Image

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:31 PM

Thanks Alan that is good enough for me. I will leave as is.

Ta for your contribution too Phil.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

So far I have received entry fees from

Me
Slo1quick
mmmoose1
Mike Akers
miveson
Charlesx

Old23
Biedmatt
Ferrari1950
Chenglaw
Phil Kalbfell
Phils Grandkids
Haystack
Alexis
RIR
Lenny Broke

Great stuff guys and thanks for being so prompt.Posted Image

If you have paid and I have missed your name please let me know.Posted Image

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

The subject of Cooper roll bars has just been raised on the VRAA thread over on SCI. Seems that F1 required them from 1961 but other non championship races did not, this is why even pics from 1961 show cars with and without roll bars.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

Ok everybody. To quell any reservations my Cooper Climax now sports a rollbar. Originally thought it looked a bit silly with this body but in grows on you. I have purposely made it as inconspicous as possible for aforementioned reason. That aside however nobody can now point finger.

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Just as well you sent last message Phil as I was about to wrap up to post.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

Charles I don,t think it matters for this event, Alan and Stu are not rivet counters! It was more for our interest.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Ta Phil. Was only having you all on. Appreciate you following up.

Looking forward to another proxy event and hopefully close tussle. In Aussie speak Oz Rally was a bonza.

On reflection my car is a bit of everything with early model filling caps, probably pre rollbar, bit of Tasman plus perhaps a bit of Kiwi.

Have had no more thought of building Mayer car as could not get any more 15" wheels at time but do have a partly built Lotus 21 which is a bit tempting.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Charles I have a set of wheels here If you need them.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Thanks for offer Phil but I will stick to Lotus 21 if I proceed any further. Latter has 13" wheels as far as I am aware which is why I chose to proceed in that direction.

Really only started to try other ideas I had on construction after building No. 47.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:52 AM

So far I have received entry fees from

Me
Slo1quick
mmmoose1
Mike Akers
miveson
Charlesx
Old23
Biedmatt
Ferrari1950
Chenglaw
Phil Kalbfell
Phils Grandkids
Haystack
Alexis
RIR
Lenny Broke
rsclio
Terry
MNewns


By my reckoning the following troops have entered but we are still waiting for your entry fee.

mannimal (pm noted)
SlotsNZ
Bigskybanker
Mrollingthunder
GT6


If you have paid and I have missed your name or payment please let me know.


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Edited by Stubbo, 27 February 2013 - 08:10 AM.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

Alan,

I've sent you a PM,

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

Don't forget guys we need to have the cars in Melbourne by the 29th March.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:13 AM

So I'll start my build in 4 weeks!!!
Hmm no weekends left in March to do anything
Might have to be a "lunchtime at work" car
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:38 AM

This is the address to send your cars to.

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17/354 Reserve Road
Cheltenham Victoria
Australia 3192
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:23 AM

ahem. slack kiwi dragging the chain. Will get onto entry fee today. Been a bit crocked, so unable to work on car, which had front track too wide last year, and a myriad of other things to do. But have smacked myself around the chops this morning, and have it half re-assembled on the work bench. About to check clearance and diameter rules, re-true new fronts, and then ready to assemble and just have to do new inserts and fit. Should have in post over the weekend.
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