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Tasman Cup 2013 Rules, Schedule And Constructors Guidelines



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#1 Stubbo

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

Rules for the 2013 Tasman Cup series.

This will start the official entry list, establish the schedule and contain the proposed rules of the 2013 Tasman Cup proxy series. If you want to compete in this year's Tasman Cup, then please read through the following information and confirm your entry with a reply in this thread.

All entries need to be paid by the 8th February 2013 to give reserve entries a chance to get their cars mailed in on time.

Cars to be in Australia by Friday the 29th March.

Cars will be returned to their owners at the end of July.

At this stage we will have a 6 race series. The probable schedule is

Round 1, Victoria
Round 2, Tasmania
Round 3, Tasmania
Round 4, New South Wales
Round 5, South Australia
Round 6, Victoria

Circumstances have come up that means there will not be a New Zealand Round this year. We are confident that the NZ round will be able to be reinstated for future series.

2013 Tasman Cup Participants:

The nominal maximum field size is 24. History has shown that not all entrants actually make it to the start, therefore we will not limit the number of entries. If we are oversubscribed we will defer to plan B.




So far we have had 24 nominations.Posted Image



Stubbo #2
Slo1 #3
Haystack #4
Mmmoose #6
Old23 #7
Phil #8
lenny broke #9
Chenglaw #10
Newso #11
Mike Akers #12
Mnewns #13
Biedmatt #14
rsclio #17
Miveson #20
SlotsNZ #22
bigskybanker # 24
Phil's GKS #26
GT6 #28
Charles #47
Alexis #50
Ferrari1950 #69
Manimmal #78
RIR #9X
MRollingthunder #TBA







Entry fee for Australian and NZ entrants will be $25.00AUD. For International Competitors the entry fee will be $30.00AUD. Any surplus money will be allocated to the prize pool.

Any offers of sponsorship or donation of prizes will be greatly appreciated.



Car number, duplicates will NOT be allowed.

Car make and model.

Resin, Plastic or Fibreglass body.

Chassis type.

Your name, very important. Owners name should be written on the bottom of the chassis.

VRAA cars are eligible




Tasman Cup constructors guide lines

We propose to generally follow the VRAA rules for this series however there are a few slight variations so please read the rules carefully.

Cars should be 1/32 scale models of F1 cars from the 1961-65 1.5 litre period. The series is also open to 1/32 scale models of cars that competed in the Tasman Cup in 1964 or 1965.

Only hard bodies (resin, fibreglass, injection moulded plastic, or fabricated plastic) will be allowed.
Reasonable scale appearance and representation of authentic colour/number/driver schemes (but no need to replicate specific cars or drivers; freelance schemes may be used, if period-appropriate).

Minimum detail would include clear windscreen; driver with head, arms, hands, and partial steering wheel; roll bar; some 3-D engine detail if visible on actual model, exhaust system. Mirrors and suspension detail are required.

Chassis may be fabricated using any material or stock manufactured excluding carbon fibre.

Wheels, inserts and tires (see below for limits) should be in keeping with the period.

Tires:
Rears: 0.80" (20.32mm) minimum diameter, maximum width .276" (7.25mm). at the sidewall
Fronts: 0.75" (19.05mm) minimum diameter, Maximum width 245” {6.25mm). at the sidewall. Front tyres must have a minimum width of 4.75mm at the sidewall.
Rear tires should not have a contact patch of more than 7mm width, fronts no more than 6mm, where the tire meets the track at the start of the series. If you are running a 4wd car then the front tyres may be the same size as the rear.

Rubber or urethane tire compound must be black, no chemicals or oil. No clear paint or polish on front tires.

Rear tires may not be slab sided tires like YellowDogs. All rear tires must have the sidewall bulge like the rear cars did in the era. The inner sidewall does not have to have the bulge but must be radiused at the tread area.

Motors:

You may choose from one of the following. BWA FF050, Dr Vanski FF050, Solarbotics FF030, MRRC SRP-1090 FF-050( The large opening in the can has to face up.). You must identify which motor you are using when it arrives for tech inspection. You are all on your honour not to slip in something a little hotter.

Gears may not be visible from above.

Dimensions:

Minimum ground clearance 1/16" or .0625", or 1.59 mm except at gear.

Accurate wheelbase (tolerance of +/- 1.5mm).

The cars can only have a max width of 2” or 50.8 mm, outer wheel rim to outer wheel rim.

Guide not to be visible from directly above the car in the straight ahead position.

No traction magnets.

Owners name should be written on the bottom of the chassis.


Race Procedures:

Finishing order for each round of the proxy race, and the entire series, will be determined by number of laps and 10ths of laps, within a set amount of time. A minimum of 12 minutes racing time per car is required at each track.

Each race will be conducted according to procedures chosen by the individual track host. Each car is to be raced in a fair and equal manner, and subject to the same track conditions. Each driver to drive all cars for the same time on the same lane. Lane and driver rotations to be determined by track host.

Track voltage will be 12 volts and will remain equal for all lanes throughout the race.

A running inspection of cars is to be made before and after each race. Cars may be cleaned and lubricated. No penalties for repairs required to keep the cars in the race. This excludes functional tire and motor changes. If a motor should fail during qualifying or during the race it can be replaced after the race has been completed without penalty. Before repairs to any damage to the body or chassis are made, the track host will discuss with the car owner for repair or return instructions.


Points Scoring.

For each race;

50-44-40-36-34-30-28-26-24-22-18-16-14-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 with a fast race lap bonus of 2 points.

In the case of a tie a count back system will apply. If two or more cars finish on the same points then the car with the most wins will be declared the winner. If still tied them the most second placings will apply and so on and so on down the finishing order. If after that we still have a tie we will determine which car had faster lap times on the various tracks. If after that we still have a tie then we reckon we will have had a bloody good series.

The Race Directors will have the final decision. Should one of the Race Directors cars be involved in a tie and the finishing order is still in dispute we will seek advice and input from one or more of the track hosts. I could be magnanimous here and say the Race Director will concede. Maybe he will.

Penalties

We were caught out a bit last year and had not given any thought to penalties for late arrivals and technical breaches. So this year we will be imposing some penalties. Please be sure you avoid incurring any.

Late arrivals. Tough. The series will kick off on the scheduled date and if your car is stuck in the mail it will miss any round that it misses. The car will be tech’d on arrival and then sent on to the next practicable venue for inclusion in the remainder of the series.

Any car outside reasonable rule boundaries and with magnetic down force will be sent home.

Any car that requires a tyre change during the series will incur a penalty per set changed.

All costs incurred will be paid by the entrant.

SCHEDULE OF PENALTIES

Late arrival for scrutineering 20 points
Remedying of other non-compliant matters 10 points
Car outside above mechanical rules 10 points per round
Non-compliance other than mechanical 10 points
Tyre change 10 points


Concours

There will be no specific concours event. As a number of cars may be coming directly from another series they may be disadvantaged.

Therefore we propose to have a Race Directors Prize. This will be awarded to the car that we think “Geez that looks nice”. We do expect the cars to be in liveries consistent with the era and we would like entrants to try to achieve as much accuracy as possible.

So a Lotus 18 with Red Bull livery is not going to get a look in.

We will have a prize so please do your best to present your car in the best possible way you can.

Let the games begin.

Sorry about the formatting, can anyone help fix that?

Edited by Stubbo, 23 December 2012 - 02:39 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:28 PM

Great to see these out. I had started building one car but thought I had better wait.

Please advise payment method when you are able. Paypal like Phil had for Oz Rally would suit me best.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:02 PM

Alan: IMO there should be a minimum front wheel width, say 5mm this will prevent any silly looking very narrow front wheels.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

View Postkalbfellp, on 01 December 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Alan: IMO there should be a minimum front wheel width, say 5mm this will prevent any silly looking very narrow front wheels.

We did consider that and I think we may have overlooked putting it in the rules.

I have some old airfix tyres that from memory were around 4.5mm. I'll measure them, talk to Stu and amend the rules
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 08:35 PM

I'm in the advanced stages of my build, am I #14? If not, how about #14 for me? I don't give a rats what number I am but I'm ready to decal.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 08:36 PM

Entrants in post #1

Edited by slo1quick, 11 December 2012 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

View PostStubbo, on 01 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

View Postkalbfellp, on 01 December 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Alan: IMO there should be a minimum front wheel width, say 5mm this will prevent any silly looking very narrow front wheels.

We did consider that and I think we may have overlooked putting it in the rules.

I have some old airfix tyres that from memory were around 4.5mm. I'll measure them, talk to Stu and amend the rules

I agree with you Phil, it is something we discussed and Alan is right in saying it is something that just got overlooked. I am not sure of real front tyre sizes of the era. Are 5" wide the narrowest they go ?
If this is the case, 5" is just under 4mm in 1/32 scale, but that is the tread and then there is the side wall to consider.

The tyres Alan has vary from 4.5mm - 4.8mm, but the 4.5's look a bit fergyish. The other tyres I have in abundance are just shy of 5mm. but they look pretty good IMO.
Need to know what size the smaller fronts were in 1:1 before we can make a decision on it.

Manimmal , sorry Biedmatt has already picked # 14.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 12:07 AM

Most of the cars in 1961 ran 5.00 front tyres, from what I could find that was 5 inches of tread and the side wall seem to be about 5.5 to 6 inches.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 03:51 AM

Lim can have number ten....thanks for asking
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:22 AM

Thanks John

5.5" is 4.36mm to 1/32 scale and 6" is 4.76mm.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:31 AM

Could I have #8 now please Stu

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

Can I please confirm No 47 (Bruce McLaren) and No 48 (Tim Mayer) for my 2 Cooper Climax if numbers permit.

Assuming field filled I would then run better of 2 cars.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:24 PM

Updated Alan #8 added Chas #48
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

Hey Stu, 78 please?
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Can I have #20 please....

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:44 PM

Yep, yep , yep and yep, updated.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

Hi Stu
sorry to be a pain but I've just found some pics of the early t73 I'm modelling and one shows a car with #9 so in the interests of historical accuacy or at least a bit closer could I change to 9 please

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:28 AM

Stu I am building two cars, No 4 will be a Brabham Climax, provided I can get the gears under the gearbox. The back up car for me or it will be entered for the grand kids is Jim's Lotus 32b climax now carrying the number 8 ( Longford) as Lenny has changed.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

Done
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

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