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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 19 Dec 2011

I have started a routed track based on the ROC Dusselldorf track 2011 & 2012.
The track itself is scaled to exactly 1:32 of original and will be one lane digital chase and catch type system.
The slot is following the racing line as best as possible.
I will be using the Scorpius Wireless System.
The track will be battery powered with a solar recharge and will be storable with it being in three sections.

Don't know how to add an image from my hard drive as soon as I find that out I will post up the proposal.

Can someone please tell me how to add an image I have read the help and clicked on the image button but it only gives an option to upload from a url. No search hard drive option.
Edited by ZeGas, 19 December 2011 - 02:26 PM.
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Mobbzee's Photo Mobbzee 19 Dec 2011

hi ZeGas and welcome
as far as i know you will have to upload the photos to a free hosting service and link from there
http://photobucket.com/ is a pretty good and easy to set up one
have a look there

paul
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 19 Dec 2011

Thanks Paul.

This is the proposal.
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This is the plan
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The total size is 3m x 2m.
I have made a start by building the bridge. used 4 layers of 3mm MDF to build up 12mm for the vertical curves, screwed and PVA'ed together. The sides are 16mm MDF, the underneath of the tunnel is cardboard.
The track is coated with 80 grit sandpaper and spay painted flat black.
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Edited by ZeGas, 19 December 2011 - 04:07 PM.
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rokrmat's Photo rokrmat 19 Dec 2011

wow that rox :)
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 21 Dec 2011

Would anyone know the best thing to use as a guide to router around curves.
I am trying flat 3 wire electricity cable but need to hold it down too regularly.
Also looked at thick walled hose but not very accurate as it is round.
What I am looking for is something that is preferably square, will not flex when a router is against it and will hold a nice curve.
Any ideas and where I can get something would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Grant
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neil's Photo neil 21 Dec 2011

last time i tried i used stips of 3mm mdf with bocks evey 100mm, next time round I'll be using elcheapo garden hose from ".....ing's". with a nail every 100mm, I'm sure not much pressure is needed to keep against hose if you take little cuts ,2mm deep,, less chance of burning the cuter/tool & you can move at a great pace. Though I see/think you did your first cut by freehand, I guess you only get 1 chance that way??
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 21 Dec 2011

On the bridge I had to do it freehand cause the bridge wasn't wide enough to set an offset and as it was a laminate of 3mm mdf I couldn't do it flat either.
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rsclio's Photo rsclio 21 Dec 2011

Ouch don't want a roll on that surface!
You could try a length of angle alluminium in 1.5mm then cut the "flat " evey 10mm ish so it will flex
Then every 50mm put a hole through to nail or screw to your surface
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Mobbzee's Photo Mobbzee 21 Dec 2011

i went to the local perspex factory and got them to cut me a 1.5 metre strip of (i think it was 8mm thick and 10mm wide) lexan
drilled little holes 100mm and it bend beautiful
think it cost me about $10
edit....thinking it may have been more like $16
Edited by Mobbzee, 21 December 2011 - 04:39 PM.
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 21 Dec 2011

I did see the stuff you used in a photo you posted and wondered what it was, Thanks for letting me know Mobbzee.
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 21 Dec 2011

View Postrsclio, on 21 December 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Ouch don't want a roll on that surface!
You could try a length of angle alluminium in 1.5mm then cut the "flat " evey 10mm ish so it will flex
Then every 50mm put a hole through to nail or screw to your surface

If you're referring to the sandpaper rsclio I thought that too but once it is painted it does soften the ride quite considerable. I will let everyone know how bad it is on the tyres when I get it up and running. It does look pretty realistic though.
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Mobbzee's Photo Mobbzee 21 Dec 2011

View PostZeGas, on 21 December 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View Postrsclio, on 21 December 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Ouch don't want a roll on that surface!
You could try a length of angle alluminium in 1.5mm then cut the "flat " evey 10mm ish so it will flex
Then every 50mm put a hole through to nail or screw to your surface

If you're referring to the sandpaper rsclio I thought that too but once it is painted it does soften the ride quite considerable. I will let everyone know how bad it is on the tyres when I get it up and running. It does look pretty realistic though.

i'd say rsclio was referring more to scratched up paintwork on cars....could be wrong though

paul
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rsclio's Photo rsclio 21 Dec 2011

View PostMobbzee, on 21 December 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:


i'd say rsclio was referring more to scratched up paintwork on cars....could be wrong though

paul
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 21 Dec 2011

View Postrsclio, on 21 December 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Ouch don't want a roll on that surface!
You could try a length of angle alluminium in 1.5mm then cut the "flat " evey 10mm ish so it will flex
Then every 50mm put a hole through to nail or screw to your surface



Ah well, welcome to the real world then.
Hard mans circuit, if you need to ask how much then you can't afford to race it. haha.
Guess the answer is don't roll, drive within the speed limit and be courteous to other drivers.
YEAH RIGHT.
Still I like the fact that your car might not stay pristine.
Edited by ZeGas, 21 December 2011 - 08:46 PM.
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rsclio's Photo rsclio 22 Dec 2011

Great Idea
I was thinking of the exact same thing but with the Langley Park super special from Rally Aus when in Perth a few years back

I guess Michelle Mouton knows about pristine cars and race of champions
Edited by rsclio, 22 December 2011 - 03:23 PM.
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 22 Dec 2011

I remember that crash and schumi pissing himself laughing. Wasn't it on the entry to the ramp that she topsy turvied?
I chucked a 9v battery on the ramp to see if the cars could clear it and it is the exit side of the ramp that causes the most problems, with the racing line I have chosen.
The car wants to exit the slot just over the crest.
That will be the test for most people I think, but the slot actually comes back in line at the bottom of the ramp so a car may re-slot itself.
I have seen the cars get airborne in ROC over the bridge and they do in my scaled down version too.
Cool cause I tried to replicate the bridge to exactly 1:32 including VC transitions, all scaled from photos mind you.
The only change is that I didn't like the square entry to the tunnel so I made an elliptical one.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the whole track is complete.
Should happen over Christmas although it will only be for one car at the moment till the Chinese go back to work after their New Year and I can get the Scorpius system up and running.
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rsclio's Photo rsclio 23 Dec 2011

This is what I was trying to explain about the Aluminium router guidePosted Image
Was thinking about you're bridge and I think you will deslot pretty much every time you get some air.
You may have to compromise you're line to allow air - straight in - straight out
You probably don't want to hear this as I can see you've already done a lot of good work
The other thing is I think you could have made the bridge simpler - My trak is 9mm MDF with a 7mm deep slot and you saw the elevation changes I got from that.
If you were to route your slot 1st using a guide then cut the bridge out afterwards then on the bottom side at the bit where you want the most bending route 4 mm deep slots at 90degrees to the guide slot every 10-15mm this thins it out to 5mm in these areas and alows it to bend
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 24 Dec 2011

OK I have listened to reason well rsclio and decided for a couple of reasons not to use sandpaper to replicate a sealed track. Mainly it was because I couldn't be bothered to glue it all down and trim to suit the shape of the track.
Instead I am just going to use paint like everyone else. Did the routing today and used the electrical cable as a guide. It worked very well I thought and would probably use the same again. Will post pics soon.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 26 Dec 2011

Some photos from Christmas eve work.
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ZeGas's Photo ZeGas 26 Dec 2011

Some photos from boxing day, Note no work done on Christmas day. I was told that I love my family more.
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And just like the bad ol' days, Britain V Germany

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And hey surprise surprise the bridge looks like it is going to work despite the change of direction just over the crest.

http://s1214.photobu...nt=P1060663.mp4

Don't know how to embed video yet so follow this link it is about a 2 sec video.
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