Garry J Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I've set up RC for Mark's 3 lane track at Bonogin Valley Raceway. I've used a an Arduino clone and everything works perfectly until I decided to run a test race. Race starts OK but the first time you resume from a track call the software crashes at the end of the countdown when the green lights should come on. There's an error message that disappears too fast to read, but I suspect it's just telling me that the software exited unexpectedly. I don't see how it can be hardware related because I can turn the track on and off a thousand times in practise mode and pre race practise with no issues and it always crashes at the exact same point. RC version is 1.11.2.0 I've never used RC or an Arduino before (clunky little things aren't they), any ideas? Quote Cheers, Garry J Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Hi Garry, Have you tried a yellow flag in practice mode? Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry J Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yes, works fine everywhere else. If I don't use track calls the races run through no problem. Does the same on 2 different PCs. I'll see if I can find another Arduino but I don't hold out any hope as it crashes whether you use a hardware button or the menu, until then I guess Mark won't be having track calls. Software shouldn't crash, period. Errors should be handled. Quote Cheers, Garry J Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Firstly, try creating a new race using the wizard, don't change any settings, run the new race, and re-test the yellow flag issue. And yes, there should be a check for any errors that will cause a crash before allowing the race to be saved / run. But, Dave has offered this software free of charge (well, donation ware), and does the programming for it in his spare time, so I tend to cut him a little slack on these small initial setup issues... ps. PM Sent Shortly... Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry J Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Thanks Rusty, I tried setting up a new race but the issue is still there. I don't use this software as I have my own system but Mark wanted something in a hurry for Sunday after another "expert" left him in the lurch. I haven't read the instructions (when all else fails,etc), so I think I'll let Mark worry about it. Thanks for the PM, I'll send that info through. Quote Cheers, Garry J Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Hi all, I'm able to replicate this issue on my pc, so it appears to be a Arduino file or this version issue... It works fine on parrallel port, but once on Arduino, I get the same crash after yellow flag in a race. The following RC's seem to work... 1.9.0.10 1.10.0.8 1.10.0.33 1.11.0.0 1.11.1.11 Edited March 16, 2017 by shadow_rusty Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snurfen Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 If nobody has done it by the time I get home (about 8 hours time), I'll try it on 1.11.1.11 to see if it is newly introduced in 1.11.2.0 Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Son of a sea serpent... I finally figured out what was happening, and this is actually a very old bug... If in your Arduino setup you have more lanes configured than there are in the track setup, this bug occurs. Simple fix, edit the Arduino setup to remove and Lap / Relay / Pit numbers that are not actually used... ps. Dave, if you see this, can you please have a look into this bug... (Emailed to Dave, so hopefully he's able to fix this bug) Edited March 16, 2017 by shadow_rusty Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry J Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Thanks Rusty, You are a veritable blossom on the vine of generosity. Quote Cheers, Garry J Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snurfen Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Result! Well figured out rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Truth be told, I figured it out ages ago... But my painful brain promptly forgot it, and I didn't report it. This time I've documented it, and reported it to Dave who is already looking into it. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Coordinator Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 This crash is now fixed. I just haven't released a patch for it. For now, simply remove the extra pin configurations and you'll be fine. ***NOTE: even after I post the fix, you really should only configure pins that are connected to the arduino. Bad things can happen if you configure random pins that aren't wired to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Thanks Dave for once again providing prompt excellent support of your great software... Well done. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBriggsK9 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I accidently removed the practice part of race coordinator . I did a uninstall and when I reloaded the program it is still missing... How do I do a complete uninstall of the program? so I can reinstall from scratch Chis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Do a search for RC.db and delete it. The when you next start race coordinator it will he back to factory defaults. Alternatively, you can just create a new practice race. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Coordinator Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Actually if you delete the rc.db file it will wipe out all your configurations (drivers, races, track and all). I don't think RC will recreate it, I think you'd have to create everything from scratch. If you go that route and want a "reset to factory" you can delete the rc.db file (and all the files/folders in the directory it is in, and then run the installer again. That will reset things. I much simpler/safer thing to do is run the Expert Guided Race Setup. It'll start asking you questions, when you get to heat rotations select Practice. It'll take all of about 2 minutes and maybe 5 questions to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Yep, just tested it, and of course Dave is right... To go back to 'factory defaults', you need to remove RC.db, and re-install RC. But as mentioned, the best way is to re-create it, as it will give you a better understanding of what options are available... Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBriggsK9 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 thanks guys I will give it a try. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil.b Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Had trackmate for years and finally downloaded race coordinator was working fine and now the power stays on before the race when Im using the ir timing and the power turns off when the race starts but it all works fine with the dead strip setting any ideas out there thanks Phil. Just using a lap top and USB adapter too trakmate interface Edited August 11, 2017 by Phil.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just go to "Track Setup" High light the Current Interface Port and Edit and then either check or uncheck "Invert Relay" Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil.b Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) went to track set up and changed between ir and relays but no change and the power on and off on that screen is back the front when switching the laptop did a windows update would that effect it cheers phil.race coordinator works all perfect with dead strip and ir tower on practice mode only could it be a relay issue and running Windows 10 Edited August 12, 2017 by Phil.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Windows would not make any difference. Did you remember to " accept" after making the change? I have had this problem once before, it in either the Race Setup or track set up. Have a look thru both again. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil.b Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ok I'll check all the settings and I have been hitting the accept button cheers phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 When you exit the config setup also need to "update" the track, I often forget that! All the power info seems to be in the track "set up" menu. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil.b Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ok I'll work on it tomorrow cheers Phil St. Andrews raceway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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