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Ozrally Proxy Series 2010/11 - Round Two

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Lap length: approx 15.5 metres

Surface: Solver Duraguard (satin acrylic)

Volts: 11

Controller: Wizardgm home made, electronic

Altitude: 58mtrs above sea level. 150mm from lowest to highest point.

 

It is the same track that has hosted rounds the past 2 years.

 

Thought you may have done some upgrades but good info for newbies in this proxy.

 

But . . . typical chippy knows nothing about paint. Two years ago . .

Track surface is Solarguard acrylic paint.
now it's Solver Duraguard (satin acrylic) :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

I wish you had taken that pic from the other end, it looks a bit gruesome. :PRallytrackconstruction1011.jpg

 

 

 

Could be along series plodding steadily along at the back.

 

Don't worry Anthony, when the cars get to Sydney we will be handicapping each car on it's last performance. Seconds lead will be seconds lost :) :) :)

 

 

Now, wonder what the temperature and humidity will be tonight

Edited by Ontheflipside

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All the best tonight Kane, I hope it all goes well.

I would have liked to get there sometime over the weekend but I'm hangin' with the thespians again.

Hopefully the Opel can stay where it is after the prologue, but eight minutes can be a very long time in slot car racing. Good luck to everyone else with a car in the round.

Alan

ps don't worry about the weather conditions Mel, Trigg's slot car palace has it own micro climate.

Edited by lenny broke

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I wish you had taken that pic from the other end, it looks a bit gruesome. :lol:Rallytrackconstruction1011.jpg

 

You're not the first person to make that comment! Nothing intentional when the build was happenning.

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Anthony: Jazzbell (101gr,12/36)and OTFS (90.8gr,9/24) have NC8, Gazza ( 75 gr,9/27) and you ( 88gr,9/28) are the NC1 guys.

 

I think the gearing info is right as I did not pull the cars apart to check the pinions.

 

Eno's Lancia turned up today with an NC-1 also. I will do a 10 lap prologue with it before stage 1.

 

That answers your question also Miveson.

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Ripper - any ideas what time you'll be doing the stage 1? I'll sit up awaiting the results.... very, very excited (even if I'm nowhere near the front - stay in front of Ember, stay in front of Ember.....)

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Ripper - any ideas what time you'll be doing the stage 1? I'll sit up awaiting the results.... very, very excited (even if I'm nowhere near the front - stay in front of Ember, stay in front of Ember.....)

 

Stage 1 will be starting shortly but will take few hours. As I am not a night owl and after watching cars do approx 1000 laps total, I will probably post the results in the morning. Depends what time we finish tonight, but no promises for early results.

 

I do understand your enthusiasm tho mark.

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even if I'm nowhere near the front - stay in front of Ember, stay in front of Ember.....

Sounds like Miveson has a new mantra. :lol:

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Eno :dog: has sent a Team Slot Lancia that is too wide, :D so at this time it is running ONLY for a time not for points or prizes.

 

This will not effect any of the other entrants places or points.

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Ok, results from last nights stage 1.

 

Tazracer had pick up issues with a couple of laps to go and limped home. I will inspect closer and rectify before rnd 2.

Ember, your car has plenty of pace but pops out of the corners far too easily, and your slow time is result of too many offs. Having the screws done up tight and no body roll is probably the main cause.

Antony, I think you might have a dodgy motor as it felt like it was really labouring to get round, at a slow pace.

 

A lot of the quicker cars were a pleasure to drive and the only difference in the score were due to the different amount of offs: some cars hung in easily where as others would pop out at the odd corner

A couple of the slower feeling cars, surprised with their results as they could be driven hard and wouldn't deslot.

 

It was good fun and there are alot of good fun cars to drive.

 

My daughter has taken the camera, so no pics available unfortunately.

 

Stage1results.png

 

I am off to play cricket shortly so won't be able to respond until later tonight.

 

Final stage 2, 33 laps, tomorrow

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Oh well.. It's not called a learning experience for nothing. Tried to get body float and the darned car just doesn't seem to fit together without the screws done up completely. Obviously I'm missing something. Drawing board here I come.

 

Go Miveson! Take Eno's car out of the list and you've hit the 20! Well done!

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Thanks Triggy. Seems to be a lot of variation in results as to the first round..? The little spyder seems to have some legs tho... :) Just waiting for the achilles heel thing to appear, was not entirely happy with the plafit pinion, maybe will mesh better as time goes on.. :dog:

 

Embs, your fastest lap time was pretty good. I was going to run the same car as yours. It was quicker than the spyder straight out of the box. One of the main reasons I chose not to was, is, that it was more difficult to modify the guide mount to accept the ninco sprung guide. I think the guide may be a big issue on the scx cars . If you didnt have the motor issues it would be more consistent Im sure. Did you add weight? where?

 

I put lead weight under the chassis on mine, So far,things to do next time: try for some more weight, nail polish the front wheels, and maybe look to running in the motor (the under distilled water and ??? alcohol thing) It seems the ingredient is a closely guarded secret...?? Will beer do.? Maybe 4XXXX.....? :D

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Nah. Not convinced that the guide is at issue. I had to narrow the rear wheel base to allow for slightly larger diam wheels and taller tyres. A few mm off an already narrow base makes quite the difference. Plus, Triggy's right, it doesn't have exactly what I'd call body float no matter how much I tried to make it so. Possibly due to the sprung rail setup on the SCX interior which I didn't want to rewire. It seems to be that which causes the car to not quite fit together until its clamped shut. I had the screws loosened a little, but probably not enough, or whatever.

 

Looking at photos of Limestone Pass I can identify easily enough the 2 or 3 corners that's giving the little bluebuzzer serious grief. If not 4 or 5. Simply way tighter than anything I had to try it out on. But, I've done my best with what I had. That's what its about.

 

And it ain't over yet.

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wow what happened to my car to fall 16seconds off the pace ?

 

Nothing wrong with your car. There are other cars that are a bit better handling etc that suit this particular track.

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...... Seems to be a lot of variation in results as to the first round..?

 

IMO, one shouldn't compare results from one round to the other and expect that to be the norm throughout the series. Slotcar rally tracks have a lot of different characteristics and drivers and controllers. All variables that affect results from one round to the other. Those that are up there at the start of the series expect that to be the norm: for some that is the case: for others the results vary. Some have poor results in some rallies and get their 15 minutes of fame when a certain track suits their car and they get a good results. This all part of proxy rallying. Ride the highs and lows and enjoy the outcome for what it is: it is out of your control. You have a 1 in 31 chance of winning a stage.

 

Keep your expectations low and you won't be dissappointed!

 

(This is a general comment meant for all and not directed specifically at slo1quick just because he was the poster)

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Nah. Not convinced that the guide is at issue. I had to narrow the rear wheel base to allow for slightly larger diam wheels and taller tyres. A few mm off an already narrow base makes quite the difference. Plus, Triggy's right, it doesn't have exactly what I'd call body float no matter how much I tried to make it so. Possibly due to the sprung rail setup on the SCX interior which I didn't want to rewire. It seems to be that which causes the car to not quite fit together until its clamped shut. I had the screws loosened a little, but probably not enough, or whatever.

 

 

How can you have body float on a scx , rails n all ? Need to hard wire the guide !

Edited by slo1quick

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Nah. Not convinced that the guide is at issue.

 

Ember I still think it is front end related. There are several SCX cars and guide systems in this rally and some that perform really well as far as staying in the slot. Your car just rides out of the slot gently, which is frustrating as the driver because its not as if it was driven too hard into the corner. Haystack and I have the same car as you . I changed my guide to sprung Ninco ( a lot of work). Haystack has the SCX guide set upand his car handles well.

 

 

And it ain't over yet.

 

Great attitude to have

 

 

Reason for edit: facts wrong. there is travel in guide

Edited by triggy

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Slo1quick: Anything it achievable. It's just a matter of working out how to do it.

 

If I'd cut the sprung strips for the lights from the body and replaced with wire it would probably have had the desired effect. But I didn't. Such is life. It's a learning experience. That's the point. Was trying to keep the changes I made as small and unobtrusive as I could.

 

Long way to go yet. It's only round 2. Anything is possible.

 

Triggy: I think I see where you're coming from. Sitting on the plate the guide didn't seem to be extended. But that could just be not looking at it right. Like I said. In it to learn what I can. Figure it's the point. Not much you learn from running the same cars on the same track against the same person, right? :)

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wow what happened to my car to fall 16seconds off the pace ?

 

Nothing wrong with your car. There are other cars that are a bit better handling etc that suit this particular track.

 

what is it thats letting the car down as lap times its one of the fastest cars ?

 

is it tippy?, lacks grip?, over powered or is it just from pushing the car to hard?

 

Just trying to find all areas where the car needs improving as it gets raced outside of this rally proxy

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So far,things to do next time: try for some more weight, nail polish the front wheels, and maybe look to running in the motor (the under distilled water and ??? alcohol thing) It seems the ingredient is a closely guarded secret...??

 

 

And vac formed interior. But a fare bit of improvisation needed for the scx as the chassis is mounted to the interior.

Still learning.

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