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Hi Guys, is there a modified list of eligible slots yet?

 

I got super excited when I saw the Fly 911 in the original list but I see it's the widest of the lot.

 

Anyone know how wide a Fly Alfa Romeo GTV is?

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is there a modified list of eligible slots yet?

 

Working on it BUT I don't have all the cars on the list here to measure!

 

I need measuremenys for:

 

Fly and Auto Art GTV , Scalex TR7,Spirit Golf. If anyone can help?

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I think Boss302 has a Fly Racing GTV doesnt he? The spirit golf does fit as we measure that the other night. That would be a challenging car to to get going!!

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The Fly Racing Alfa is a modern 156 GTA and not a 60's-80 car.

 

The 60's-70's Fly Alfa GTV is 54 mm wide

 

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The flared GTAj / GTAm versions are 57mm but I'm not sure if those versions were used in rallying. AutoArt only makes the GTAm version.

 

BTW: the Fly GTV's are front motored.

 

I don't have a TR7, but on pics it looks grossly oversize IMO, correct me if I'm wrong.

Edited by 356speedster

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The 60's-70's Fly Alfa GTV is 54 mm wide

 

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The flared GTAj / GTAm versions are 57mm but I'm not sure if those versions were used in rallying. BTW: the Fly GTV's are front motored.

 

I have found a few Fly Alfa GTV for sale but none of them are rally liveries (nor do they have a navigator).

 

Can these non rally liveried Alfas be entered?

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B. The body to be fitted with a 3 dimensional interior consisting of at least a driver and co/driver ( head and shoulders), steering wheel and 2 seats Vac form plastic is acceptable.

No mention of livery having to be rally!

 

Most of the cars listed have clearance problems, so I intend to alter the rules to allow the bottom of the chassis to be sanded so that the moulded detail can be removed to allow more clearance. Larger diameter rear tyres will still probably be required.

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SCX 63860 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus ...... 52mm

SCX 64550 Fiat 850 Abarth ................ 45 mm

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What happened to the KISS principle. . . . .

. . . or as long as it has a driver and navigator. :aussie:

 

If they are too low the car will belly out on some humps or too wide they will pin ball off the scenery (disadvantage to times of relevant cars only)

 

Flipped!

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What happened to the KISS principle. . . . .

. . . or as long as it has a driver and navigator. :aussie:

 

If they are too low the car will belly out on some humps or too wide they will pin ball off the scenery (disadvantage to times of relevant cars only)

 

Flipped!

 

As a slotter who would just like to be involved, I would also like to see things kept as simple as possible...it would be great to have a list of acceptable slots that you could feel confident in entering.

 

Be amazing to see some of these classic rally cars included in the lineup from the era;

 

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Source: Seth's Carrera Showroom

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Well you should have entered last years proxy Manic ...... because this year they're all illegal

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If they are too low the car will belly out on some humps or too wide they will pin ball off the scenery (disadvantage to times of relevant cars only)

 

Mel you should have raised these thought back when you got the first draft rules.

 

It is simple now,just no wide cars! :aussie:

 

Who wants to see this series turn into a Fly Ninco Porsche series. Lets just run some narrow cars that we all have on the shelf and try and have some fun.

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According to my brand new X- Slot set up pad these cars don't even make 1.5mm clearance, so there out

 

Fiat 850

Seat 850

Talbot sunbeam

Escort

Alpine 110

Cortina

Porsche 911 (Fly)

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It wouldn't be just Porsches, I was looking at this beautiful Alpine A310 (1977) from Avant (which is probably too wide looking at the pics)

 

Renault-Alpine-A310-Avant-Slot-Rally-51101-a.JPG

 

opps forgot, photo source: TopSlots'n'Trains

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It's a toss up as to whether Renault or Citroen build the worlds ugliest cars ......... i think Renault wins

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If they are too low the car will belly out on some humps or too wide they will pin ball off the scenery (disadvantage to times of relevant cars only)

 

Mel you should have raised these thought back when you got the first draft rules.

 

It is simple now,just no wide cars! :lol:

 

Who wants to see this series turn into a Fly Ninco Porsche series. Lets just run some narrow cars that we all have on the shelf and try and have some fun.

 

I didn't see the Porsche's being in there a problem but didn't want to object to them being isolated either. I'm not really a Porsche fan but entered one last year as that was the only option I had at the time.

 

The reason I had not raised the width earlier as I don't think any of us had any idea of the narrowing field implications. I'm not trying to be picky here Phil just trying to make it simpler and easier to find suitable cars for most of the entrants who don't see it as racing for sheep stations. I made a comment way back that my preference was to run the same class and rules two years in a row for those newbies to have a chance of improving on what they did last time. Both Gazza and I raised the height issue late last year. Maybe that could be recommended only.

 

I guess one of the good things about the Forum is we can all throw our two bobs worth in before the rules are set in concrete. :aussie:

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I guess one of the good things about the Forum is we can all throw our two bobs worth in before the rules are set in concrete.

 

No that is why the draft rules were sent out early last month for the people to comment BEFORE they were put on the Forum. :aussie:

 

But by not allowing a few Porsches we are down to about 27 cars on the list IF we can sort the clearance problems.

 

I think Gazza's track is usually the track that has the most problems with clearance, will a car run O/K there IF they only have 1.2 to 1.3 under the rear axle BUT more clearance in the centre of the chassis?

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But by not allowing a few Porsches we are down to about 27 cars on the list IF we can sort the clearance problems.

 

Hey Phil, any chance of publishing this list (clearance issues pending of course) for those who are looking at purchasing an entry?

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According to my brand new X- Slot set up pad these cars don't even make 1.5mm clearance, so there out

 

Fiat 850

Seat 850

Talbot sunbeam

Escort

Alpine 110

Cortina

Porsche 911 (Fly)

Even though these cars are under the "minimum height" they all still get around my track without any problems

 

Depending on how bad the tyre wear is on the cars by the time they get to my track is another question

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I've re-read the thread but still sa bit confused. Will it be 55mm body width or track width?

 

With a 55mm body width rule all the 911's are out, but the 356's still rallyed in the early 60's ;)

 

1963 Porsche 356 Carrera 2 GS/GT

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This ex-works car was one of 14 built in 1963, according to specifications for its export to Sweden, where it was used in the Swedish Rally Championship. It ran in the June 1963 "Midnight Sun" rally, which went 150 km north of the Arctic Circle in unbelievable conditions, including a 1.5-km stage through a dark underground iron mine.

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I think Gazza's track is usually the track that has the most problems with clearance, will a car run O/K there IF they only have 1.2 to 1.3 under the rear axle BUT more clearance in the centre of the chassis?

I had a few of the cars (last year) rub on the bridge hump on my track. Both with the Oz and SCX rally cars but with the braid recessed there was no real issue. I'm in Brisbane at present so cannot measure the ideal clearance on my track but Gazza's would be the benchmark IMO

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I just punch them hard and they fly over ;) :aussie: :dog:

Edited by Ontheflipside

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356 speester: In post No 16 I mentioned allowing body width or 58mm but retaining the 55mm outside to outside the wheels at max. Happy to allow the 356 IF it was still rallying into the sixties.

Think this list is almost complete,thanks very much to all who have assisted with measuring cars.

 

1960 – 1980

 

Alfa Romeo GTV Fly 54mm

Alfa Romeo Giulia sprint GTA Team Slot (plastic) 54 mm

Alfa Romeo Giulia sprint GTAm Auto Art (did it ever rally) 54mm

Austin Healey 3000- Hardtop Ninco 52mm

BMW 2002 Spirit 53mm

Citroen DS21 SCX 56mm and widest

Citroen 2cv Pink Kar 47 mm

Datsun 240z – Scalex 54mm

Fiat 850 SCX 45mm

Fiat 124 Spyder SCX 54mm

Ford Cortina GT Scalex Revell 49mm

Ford Escort MK 1 Scalex 53.5mm

Ford Escort Mk2 SCX 53mm

Holden Torana L34 - Scalextric 56mm

Lancia Stratos Team Slot (plastic) SCX 56mm

Lancai Fulvia HF – Auto Art 48mm

Mercedes 220 & 300 SE Revell 57mm

Morris Mini Cooper Scalex old/new SCX 44/54mm

Opel GT Power Slot 53mm

Porsche 911s Fly 58mm

Porsche Carrera RS SCX 56 mm

Porsche 356 Coupe Ninco 54mm

Porsche 904 – MRRC-Revell Monogram 46.7mm

Renault Alpine A110 SCX 48mm

Renault Alpine A110 Teamslot (plastic) 56mm

Renault 8ts SCX 45.6mm

Talbot Sunbeam Lotus SCX 52mm

Triumph TR-7/8 Scalex 58mm

VW Beetle Pink Kar 50mm

VW Golf Spirit

Edited by kalbfellp

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If you allow the +55 mm wide cars to run with a 55mm track you can lower the body even more and get a more stable car ie Fly Porsche. It seems that those who choose to run a 55mm car are going to be up against it as there will be a great disparity between these cars. The 55mm car width would have been a great equaliser and would have come down to car build and preparation rather than car choice. Just my thoughts BRK

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