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Good topic. Certainly is a very irritating bit of PC.

 

I can't immediately see any smokes liveries required for any of the upcoming Pioneer range - but in a way I wish there was something I could 'test' the market with.

 

I must admit, this is not an area that I have investigated regarding when it's OK/not OK to print or display cigarette images.

 

I think it comes down more to a corporate 'worry' by the larger makers that they may get hauled up for promoting smokes or booze to kiddies.

 

Perhaps it's time for 'Top Shelf' slots. What clandestine fun that would be. "A little something for the weekend, sir?"

"Yes. I'll have one of those and...err hmm...one of those.....no......the other one.....black and gold......yes. yes, that's it. Cor."

Then leg it outta your local HS with your ciggie sponsored slot in a plain brown bag.

 

I'm a stubborn enough old bugger to risk a few naughty liveries.

 

Did anyone pick up on the fact that the Playboy Centre-Fold models by Fly caused far more of a fuss and offended way more people than any Marlboro liveried slot car ever did. The mucky mag images offended 'adults'.

 

Jules

Top Shelf Slot Shop Inc.

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If you do go over to the Top Shelf Brown Paper Bag stuff Jules, please promise you will do one of those shiny black and mirror gold liveries. Not that I'm a collector of racing liveries, but the any of the JPS always looked so classy. Even succeeded in making Beamers look pretty.

 

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I can't immediately see any smokes liveries required for any of the upcoming Pioneer range - but in a way I wish there was something I could 'test' the market with.

 

Jules

Top Shelf Slot Shop Inc.

 

OK Rick Jules has just confirmed I am off the mark with my earlier comment..........I will pay your race fees Mon night for an insight into your query......


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I have a scalextric C129 March Six Wheel F1 car with Rothmans Advertising that was way prior to 1992.

 

I like the Slot It answer to the advertising "ban" with the white removal patches over the offending graphic. (i.e. the silk cut Jaguars)

Have just got a Fly Marlboro Renault turbo they provide a decal sheet with the offending words for you to add yourself and an instruction sheet to show where they should go.

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Check ya email El Presedente.

 

Fees and let me win a race will ya!!

 

Thats when you turn up, that is :)

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Hi all,

I have a Slotter Lola t280 blue Gitanes the cigarette of france livery I purchased only about three years ago. How does that work?

 

 

Regards John


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Sadly I've nothing constructive to add. Here are two very relevant points I picked up from other Internet forums. The first one relates to the law in Australia.

 

One.

I have spent 6 years now fighting this one and before this forum string wanders into previously discussed waters and no offence to any of our contributors, old or new, but the facts are:

 

It is ILLEGAL to put any form of tobacco logos or promotional items on "TOY" cars or in the packaging they are sold in.

 

All model cars are categorised under Federal legislation and the Customs Act as Category 28C...TOYS. Irregardless of price!!

 

End of argument.

 

 

Two

I am not aware of hordes of people dashing out of the circuit or from their TV sets, down to the local shop so that they could buy some cigarettes and take up a habit that they had never thought of doing before. The whole issue of banning cigarette advertising is political correctness run amok. People took up smoking because of peer pressure or because of family history. Advetising merely helped them select a brand.

 

Now we have model makers and museums deleting cigarette logos etc from their cars. The rewriting of history, dictated by the nanny state, to protect us from ourselves.

 

Political correctness is the scourge and antithesis of rational thought.

 

My comment.

 

I ran the risk by painting cars with tobacco advertising on them and selling them on ebay. The only problem I had was when Philip Morris picked up my unauthorised use of their Benson and Hedges logo and had the auction pulled. Their lawyers in America also contacted me by e mail. I took the car and sold it elsewhere and didn't even bother to ask B&H if I could have permission, I just didn't go there again.

 

All the communications related to the use of the logo and nothing regards the sinful proliferation of tobacco advertising.

 

My dear old dad died aged 54 from coronary thrombosis caused by heavy cigarette consumption. But even he would have found this politically correct world a pretty bizarre place.


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I have also a Corgi JPS Lotus in my collection of toys. It is still alive. I bought it 7 years ago from the vintage toys store nearby. I am collecting toys for almost 10 years and I really want to have more unique toys. seo services

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How do the rules go covering forum members showing pictures of repaints of cars with cig. advertising on it. I recently put up a picture of a winfield nissan, and I would hate to think the powers that be would start restricting forums like this.

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I have a Slotter Lola t280 blue Gitanes the cigarette of france livery I purchased only about three years ago. How does that work?

 

Sloter were/are from Spain and some manufacturers from there they seem to inturpret the EU laws differently to any other EU country.....Tobacco advertising on cars doesn't appear to be a problem to them.

 

Personally I'd rather have a historically correct car than a PC car.....so good on them.

 

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Alan

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How do the rules go covering forum members showing pictures of repaints of cars with cig. advertising on it. I recently put up a picture of a winfield nissan, and I would hate to think the powers that be would start restricting forums like this.

 

There are exemptions that are allowed under the Tobacco Prohibition Act. If the tobacco advertisement is incidental and it is not your intent to promote smoking or a particular tobacco brand and no financial gain is made and you are an individual rather than a corporation then you can have an article with tobacco signage on it. Ie An individual doing a repaint is fine. Try selling it and yes your are up for it if you get caught.

 

Having said that I did get a reply from the Minister. It was what I was expecting. Stated simply....NO.

 

To all those slot car manufacturers that are flying under the radar, it would only take one PC correct parent to complain that little Johnny had a slot car with tobacco livery and it would get real ungly and real expensive for the importer. Currently reading the fine print on the exemptions, havent given up just yet.


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Why is it then that at the recent Autosport Racing car show here in the UK all the original tobacco sponsored historic cars cars were all in perfect original order.

 

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But the HB sponsored Audi used in the Performance area was in it's original colour scheme but with the tobacco logo's removed.

 

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For those people with not so long memories, years ago women were permitted to show their upper appendages (boobs) on the stage of the Windmill Theatre in Soho but the minute they moved they were breaking the law.

 

Do you think this stupid law was invented by the same idiot who came up with that one. Or perhaps a moving car makes you feel like a smoke but a stationary one doesn't.

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Im not up to speed with UK law? Im quoting Australian Law. If the article exosted prior to 1992 or a contractual arangement was set in place prior to 1992 then that article has the right exist (if the intent is not to promote smoking).


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Had a little time over Christmas and traveled interstate. Found two stores with cigarette sponsored liveries on their shelves and three sites also with these plus others listed. I wonder if retailers know the legal ramifications or whether the just stock what the manufacturers release?

 

I also have in my collection a Marlboro and Gitanes liveried F1's purchased pre 92. Also found this interesting little insight

 

"Contrary to common belief, it wasn’t Team Lotus that introduced non-automotive full-livery sponsorship to international motor racing. Although Colin Chapman loved to exploit it that way, it would only be correct in terms of a full World Championship campaign.

 

The first Company to line up two fully liveried Formula 1 cars at the grid of a Grand Prix was the Gunston Cigarette Company of Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe. Gunston introduced tobacco sponsorship to motor racing when they sponsored Rhodesian drivers John Love and Sam Tingle in the 1968 South African Championship for F1 and F5000 machinery."

 

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Racer produce cars in this livery as did Fly!

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Hi all

 

I was looking at getting some decals made up in advance for a "Gold Leaf Lotus", but ended up putting that in the too hard basket. So I came up with an even easier solution for displaying my car. It also answers my friends first question "So whats Gold Leaf"!

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Hey when was that made? Prior to 1992 I gather? Or if some sort of contractual obligation was set in place (ie retailer bought the goods prior to 92) then you were allowed to sell them after the 92 date. Othe wise look out for the PC police. Just looking at those cars makes me want to light up so the Minister makes a very valid point. :):lol::lol:

 

As others have spotted there are some that are flying under the radar at the moment. Now this sounds weird but as far as I can read tobacco packets are exempt. ie A tobacco packet is allowed to advertise itself. So if you uncrewed the body stuffed cigarettes inside the car you could argue that it was a cigaette packet. Of course you could only sell to adults and the car would attract huge tax but.....

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As an ex smoker, started at age 5 after getting first slot car set, i always found it interesting that at the height of the booze bus, drink driving push who should sponsor the most iconic race in Australia but Tooheys


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Well Tooheys is a lot less harmful that when it was the Hardie Ferodo race. Those asbestos cigarettes were killing me. :):lol:


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Well Tooheys is a lot less harmful that when it was the Hardie Ferodo race. Those asbestos cigarettes were killing me. :):lol:

Yeh i suppose your right ..... having a dozen or so cans and then getting behind the wheel never hurt anyone


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when i was younger and i never knew that some of the colourful sponsors were tobacco brands(cigarettes)

 

it was only when when i saw the packets and bill board ads that i found out.

 

" gold leaf team lotus 49" i never knew that" gold leaf "was a tobacco brand :)

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I am just waiting till my six year old asks me why it says "Viagra" on that car.

 

You know, I think I would rather explain what Marlboro is..............

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